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    #25
    Originally posted by Sheepwheat View Post
    These next best things have these amounts of issues? And guys still pay to get them? What is the price tag? Curious as to why? Why the headache when you could use the older stuff just fine? I don’t get it.
    I don't farm with the latest models, but I do realize that if it wasn't for other farmers buying new equipment there wouldn't be real good used ones for sale for me to buy.

    So, I have no problem that other farmers who want to buy new, many have worked hard to where they have gotten. There are countless reasons why farmers upgrade, good for them if they can or want to buy new.

    How would you have the equipment you have Sheep if other farmers never upgraded equipment?
    Last edited by foragefarmer; Oct 6, 2022, 22:34.

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      #26
      My specific original question was regarding the massive troubles some new machinery seems to be having. I simply asked why pursue machinery that is full of glitches for xxxxxx dollars when there are other options out there. I think my entire thrust was misunderstood to an extent.

      Thanks to the folks who buy newer stuff. No question.

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        #27
        Originally posted by Sheepwheat View Post
        I don’t know the odor, so I can’t say. Sounds like a drug. Dangerous to try? Might get addicted?
        Smells like money, but a mouse will take care of that.

        100% immediate depreciation, if needed and used, sounds enticing, but that incentive will claw back on the next upgrade. What the H. Live for today.

        Have not looked up if that is true. Tells you how machine current I am.

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          #28
          Sheep.
          $/hr of use.
          Once at a certain level you're flipping at a particular hour amount.
          What did the flip cost? Bought 800 hrs my last one for $190/hr. Held on any longer that number was going up.
          So if you're at the new level, you trust dealer support. New tech is fun and sometimes profitable. You seldom grease, never change much oil. Just drive. Like going to the office every morning. No coveralls.
          I can't afford new new, but my business needs near new.

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            #29
            Originally posted by blackpowder View Post
            Sheep.
            $/hr of use.
            Once at a certain level you're flipping at a particular hour amount.
            What did the flip cost? Bought 800 hrs my last one for $190/hr. Held on any longer that number was going up.
            So if you're at the new level, you trust dealer support. New tech is fun and sometimes profitable. You seldom grease, never change much oil. Just drive. Like going to the office every morning. No coveralls.
            I can't afford new new, but my business needs near new.
            I’m very odd. I admit it all day long. I still like steering, and one of my favorite things is walking around the machinery before starting the day, oiling and greasing. Then digging in the soil for a bit, on my knees in my coveralls. Lol.

            But I will say, no wonder at these now long term, historically beautiful grain prices, the margins are still too low. At least on forums that’s what is said. On another forum guys claim they need 6 dollar oats to make a profit? Just wow.

            I would clean house with six dollar oats. Even with these stupid high cash inputs. I guess I’m not paying 120 for rent and who knows what for hired labor and through the roof machinery costs.

            As I say, believe me, I’m odd. I don’t fit. I have zero in common with my neighbors whatsoever, which is frustrating at times, because they’re all chasing dollars, and I feel like I’m enjoying life and chasing bees, or digging garlic, or feeding the sheep.

            This year, I used my thousand dollar baler and my cost was twine and a couple of lacing pins. Grease and oil of course. Whoops, I forgot, I took out an offset link out of a slightly stretched chain.
            Last edited by Sheepwheat; Oct 7, 2022, 10:52.

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              #30
              Sheep, I've said before I'm a little jealous. Able to beat inflation, (retain earnings for growth) and feed the family well. You have low costs and good stable margins. You are living the dream, enjoy.

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                #31
                each farm is different a 1000 acre farm with zero debt makes money or loses depending on operator

                wanting to be like the next guy when you don’t know the situation never works

                amount of debt to one farm is different from each farm it depends on how much rope you want to dangle

                do the best with what you have or are given

                just enjoy what you do

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                  #32
                  Originally posted by blackpowder View Post
                  Sheep, I've said before I'm a little jealous. Able to beat inflation, (retain earnings for growth) and feed the family well. You have low costs and good stable margins. You are living the dream, enjoy.
                  Don’t be. Haha. We all have our issues let me tell you. It’s not about being like the next guy. It’s kind of about trying to understand the differences in farming and not looking only at acres or cash reserves, or debt really. Not looking down on the BTO, or the little guy. It is hard to take when you hear things about how “he only has 1200 acres, look at his pathetic setup, he’s lazy, or what is wrong with him?”

                  It has taken me many moons to say heck with it, I’m not like everyone else. I still mess up in my misunderstanding like I did a bit in this very thread. Believe me, I tried for a couple decades to get acres, build machinery and bins, and one year stopped me in my tracks. SF said it well in the last post as well.

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                    #33
                    Some hard pan areas needed attention..

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                      #34
                      Originally posted by furrowtickler View Post
                      Some hard pan areas needed attention..
                      So whats happening here?

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                        #35
                        Originally posted by furrowtickler View Post
                        Some hard pan areas needed attention..
                        How deep are you running those ripper shanks?

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                          #36
                          Some days things come up and literally throw you off track😉



                          The loader couldn’t quite pick it by itself. The hoe was called in as reinforcements.


                          Using some finesse to coax the runaway track back on. It’s the first time it’s come completely off and did it for no apparent reason. Things never get dull around here😎

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