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Originally posted by Sheepwheat View PostThese next best things have these amounts of issues? And guys still pay to get them? What is the price tag? Curious as to why? Why the headache when you could use the older stuff just fine? I don’t get it.
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Originally posted by blackpowder View PostIf we're in the bushel business, sooner or later we have to stay reasonably current. Long list of very real reasons.
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Originally posted by Sheepwheat View PostYup. That’s why I ask. Why not later than sooner? I can still grow as many bushels per acre with ancient machinery as the next guy is what I’m saying. I know what you’re saying. But it doesn’t really answer my question.
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New Shiny paint has a hypnotic Addictive quality… hard to get over the smell of that new upholstery… and paint…
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Gotcha Sheep.
I spent more on operator wages and repairs on old combines than the payment on one big newer one.
Now, I will never again have a paid for combine. But I get the modern benefits. Trash management, capacity, gps and grain in the bin. Along with parts in stock and techs who are current.
Notice I said newer not new.
I'll take 2-400 hr machines that have sat on a lot too long and run them to just under 1000. So currently running a 2017 got last year, and will have it for 2 more years.
But. If it wasn't my only living, I'd be happy with old ones. 9600JD comes to mind. Crazy hours on some of those things.
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Originally posted by Sheepwheat View PostThese next best things have these amounts of issues? And guys still pay to get them? What is the price tag? Curious as to why? Why the headache when you could use the older stuff just fine? I don’t get it.
So, I have no problem that other farmers who want to buy new, many have worked hard to where they have gotten. There are countless reasons why farmers upgrade, good for them if they can or want to buy new.
How would you have the equipment you have Sheep if other farmers never upgraded equipment?Last edited by foragefarmer; Oct 6, 2022, 22:34.
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My specific original question was regarding the massive troubles some new machinery seems to be having. I simply asked why pursue machinery that is full of glitches for xxxxxx dollars when there are other options out there. I think my entire thrust was misunderstood to an extent.
Thanks to the folks who buy newer stuff. No question.
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Originally posted by Sheepwheat View PostI don’t know the odor, so I can’t say. Sounds like a drug. Dangerous to try? Might get addicted?
100% immediate depreciation, if needed and used, sounds enticing, but that incentive will claw back on the next upgrade. What the H. Live for today.
Have not looked up if that is true. Tells you how machine current I am.
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Sheep.
$/hr of use.
Once at a certain level you're flipping at a particular hour amount.
What did the flip cost? Bought 800 hrs my last one for $190/hr. Held on any longer that number was going up.
So if you're at the new level, you trust dealer support. New tech is fun and sometimes profitable. You seldom grease, never change much oil. Just drive. Like going to the office every morning. No coveralls.
I can't afford new new, but my business needs near new.
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Originally posted by blackpowder View PostSheep.
$/hr of use.
Once at a certain level you're flipping at a particular hour amount.
What did the flip cost? Bought 800 hrs my last one for $190/hr. Held on any longer that number was going up.
So if you're at the new level, you trust dealer support. New tech is fun and sometimes profitable. You seldom grease, never change much oil. Just drive. Like going to the office every morning. No coveralls.
I can't afford new new, but my business needs near new.
But I will say, no wonder at these now long term, historically beautiful grain prices, the margins are still too low. At least on forums that’s what is said. On another forum guys claim they need 6 dollar oats to make a profit? Just wow.
I would clean house with six dollar oats. Even with these stupid high cash inputs. I guess I’m not paying 120 for rent and who knows what for hired labor and through the roof machinery costs.
As I say, believe me, I’m odd. I don’t fit. I have zero in common with my neighbors whatsoever, which is frustrating at times, because they’re all chasing dollars, and I feel like I’m enjoying life and chasing bees, or digging garlic, or feeding the sheep.
This year, I used my thousand dollar baler and my cost was twine and a couple of lacing pins. Grease and oil of course. Whoops, I forgot, I took out an offset link out of a slightly stretched chain.Last edited by Sheepwheat; Oct 7, 2022, 10:52.
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