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    #25
    Also looking at MES 15 versus 11-52. MES lowers your pounds per acre at the same nutrient levels. I think it is a good product but will cost me just over $7 more per acre. Any thoughts? Is it worth the additional $7 over using 11-52 and 21-0-0-24?

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      #26
      Banding elemental sulfur is a bad practice. If you don't actually need sulfur then any source will work. Paying an extra $7/ac for convenience seems extravagant to me. How can you tell I'm in the business of selling MAP and sulfate?

      Do what works for you but over time if you broadcast elemental sulfur you can likely raise your base level in the soil to the point where a relatively small amount of sulfate S in the seed row is all you need. Buy the cheapest elemental shit you can get your hands on and put it on the canola stubble so it has as long as possible to oxidize ahead of the next canola crop.

      The whole schtick about uniform analysis in each granule sounds good on the glossy brochure but the seedling doesn't really care and you're paying dearly for that feature.

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        #27
        Josh Linville
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        September U.S. #fertilizer trade flow fun fact:

        For the 5th month in a row, the U.S. exported more #UAN than it imported, creating a net negative trade balance for the product.

        If you wonder why your supplier/retailer doesn't have a price...

        We get to pay whatever price it takes to keep that product at home instead of being exported. Same thing that's happening with diesel fuel right now.

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          #28
          Originally posted by jazz View Post
          All the expert articles seem to say broadcasting in the late fall means it just ends up in the atmosphere.

          Going to test that one myself this yr.
          I dont broadcast myself we put everything on with sideband at seeding. However if your broadcasting in the fall ,Never spread on top of Snow that is a BIG mistake. studies out of Montana U show that 30% or more can be lost to atmospere

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            #29
            Originally posted by mustardman View Post
            I dont broadcast myself we put everything on with sideband at seeding. However if your broadcasting in the fall ,Never spread on top of Snow that is a BIG mistake. studies out of Montana U show that 30% or more can be lost to atmospere
            I broadcast on snow once, one of my best crops.

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              #30
              Originally posted by mustardman View Post
              I dont broadcast myself we put everything on with sideband at seeding. However if your broadcasting in the fall ,Never spread on top of Snow that is a BIG mistake. studies out of Montana U show that 30% or more can be lost to atmospere
              what kinda opener ?, single side band or paired row ? whats the most product you have put ?
              we use SSB atom jet and i get scared after 300 lbs product although have never had a problem

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                #31
                Originally posted by caseih View Post
                what kinda opener ?, single side band or paired row ? whats the most product you have put ?
                we use SSB atom jet and i get scared after 300 lbs product although have never had a problem
                A question Caseih. I had atomjet side band with 3/4 inch centres. Then I put on atomjet high rate side band with 1 inch centres. I do prefer the high rate side band but not sure I prefer the 1 inch centres. Highest fertilizer I have used would be 310 lbs. per acre, had no issues. What are your thoughts 3/4 inch or 1 inch centres?

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                  #32
                  Originally posted by caseih View Post
                  what kinda opener ?, single side band or paired row ? whats the most product you have put ?
                  we use SSB atom jet and i get scared after 300 lbs product although have never had a problem
                  we use atomjet sideband for cereals put some with seed and majority thru sideband. cereal rates are under 200 pounds

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                    #33
                    Originally posted by Hamloc View Post
                    A question Caseih. I had atomjet side band with 3/4 inch centres. Then I put on atomjet high rate side band with 1 inch centres. I do prefer the high rate side band but not sure I prefer the 1 inch centres. Highest fertilizer I have used would be 310 lbs. per acre, had no issues. What are your thoughts 3/4 inch or 1 inch centres?
                    we just have the 3/4" side band , thats all we have ever used except for the morris gumbo boots back in the day (very crude but effective)
                    great thing about atom jet is you can try them for a spring and get your money back if you don't like them
                    had a fert salesman clean a run behind our drill with a brush (he was not a believer), anyways he cleaned 10 feet of drill run and it was amazing, seed and fert were 3/4" apart , he was impressed!, we never put any fert with seed and are told over and over that that is bad . but we have done many trials and there is never any difference , ever.
                    Last spring we got some shitty seed (5% germ) was reseeding last day of may , was pissed off , and set drill wrong so single shot 40 lbs actual phos on 40 acres by mistake on a field that already had 35 lbs act phos , again no difference!
                    normally we are on the wet side tho
                    Last edited by Guest; Nov 5, 2022, 13:13.

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                      #34
                      Was told by one retailer to hold off on buying fert? Said it is slowly coming down. Anybody seeing/hearing the same?

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                        #35
                        Probably will, all N +S in the ground and Phos in the bin, you are welcome.

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                          #36
                          All our dry bought and binned, still need to buy juice. I’d be very surprised if it’s under $1.00 expecting
                          +$1.20

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