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    #13
    Sooooo how many of you guys load up the super-b and haul to the elevator before you call to see if they have room , maybe they need to replace a few ship captains.

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      #14
      The shipping companies have been purchasing the cargos of cheap gas and playing the spread on EU market. Such volitility in Europe they decide where to unload when the see where prices are when they near the destination.
      Spot market sales with windfall profits.
      They can still take the cargoes to Asia but it's a safe bet EU will need the product.
      In a normal market they would be contracting with brokers for the freight and not speculating on the LNG.

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        #15
        For those who cant find the news or even bother to look for it, this is still likely majority russian gas and some NA LNG.

        Europe has been buying Russian gas through china for past 6 months.

        Take that Putin.

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          #16
          Amazing Russia blew up their own infrastructure that makes up 40% of their total GDP, and within just a few weeks Europes energy crisis is adverted. Those LNG ships must really move to steam over that quickly. Phew

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            There were pipelines before Nordstream.
            Don't know how they ger it from China but much of it comes thu Ukraine.
            Russia pays tariffs for the gas that passes though Ukraine.
            They are also supplying Ukraine with gas.

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              #18
              Im sure it being +20 in England throughout October plays a factor in lack of heating demand.

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                #19
                Is anyone locking in nat gas for their yard for the next year or two?

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                  #20
                  Originally posted by farmboy44 View Post
                  Im sure it being +20 in England throughout October plays a factor in lack of heating demand.
                  Bingo. And the same is true across Europe right now. But no one knew that when the cargos were booked and loaded.
                  Last edited by AlbertaFarmer5; Oct 26, 2022, 10:29.

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                    #21
                    Originally posted by shtferbrains View Post
                    Don't know how they ger it from China but much of it comes thu Ukraine.
                    Power of Siberia, eastern gas connect to China. compressed, tankered and shipped to Europe.

                    I just about want to weep when I see a country like Russia building infrastructure like crazy while we fight stupid woke idiots here.

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                      #22
                      Originally posted by jazz View Post
                      Power of Siberia, eastern gas connect to China. compressed, tankered and shipped to Europe.

                      I just about want to weep when I see a country like Russia building infrastructure like crazy while we fight stupid woke idiots here.

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                      Not hard to figure out who is funding our woke idiots. While they simultaneously parrot every piece of anti-russian propaganda, blissfully unaware that they are the unwitting useful idiots doing Russia's dirty work for them. Right chuck?


                      I can't find it today, but yesterday I read that some minor Asian Nation is now exporting more natural gas than they even produce. Not hard to figure out where that came from.

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                        #23
                        Not only in Siberia… Russian exploration in the High Arctic…The flag planting at the North Pole… Since Russia practices possession is 9/10 of the law… they, the Russians, are not shy about plans for confiscation of these oil and gas reserves… they don’t give a rats patootie about the risk to the arctic environment… or the irreversible environmental disaster… that an inevitable accident up north would cause…

                        Who will stop Putin?

                        Obviously not the US, Canada, the EU, maybe China? We know what that will mean… Denmark, Canada, the US… are being proven to be unwilling to stop Russia and China…

                        The world of the end… where greed and brute power
                        Signal civilization… isn’t.

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                          #24
                          Originally posted by TOM4CWB View Post
                          Not only in Siberia… Russian exploration in the High Arctic…The flag planting at the North Pole… Since Russia practices possession is 9/10 of the law… they, the Russians, are not shy about plans for confiscation of these oil and gas reserves… they don’t give a rats patootie about the risk to the arctic environment… or the irreversible environmental disaster… that an inevitable accident up north would cause…

                          Who will stop Putin?

                          Obviously not the US, Canada, the EU, maybe China? We know what that will mean… Denmark, Canada, the US… are being proven to be unwilling to stop Russia and China…

                          The world of the end… where greed and brute power
                          Signal civilization… isn’t.
                          I look at that topic more cynically.
                          Much like how during world war ii, The Americans allowed the Germans and the Russians to bleed each other dry before intervening. Even sending just enough weapons and supplies to keep them in the fight.
                          Is the same thing happening in Ukraine right now? Sending just enough aid to keep the ukrainians in the fight, prolong the bloodshed as long as possible with the intention of bleeding both sides dry, then picking up the pieces unopposed when both parties are too exhausted. Those Arctic and far Eastern energy resources may just be the goal of this entire operation. Let alone the gas in the Black Sea and Eastern Ukraine.
                          Meanwhile everyone in the West keeps cheering on sending more weapons to see even more needless death by both sides.
                          Last edited by AlbertaFarmer5; Oct 26, 2022, 13:45.

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