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    Matador de-registered

    Someone told me that it is still registered for use in Eastern Canada, just banned here?

    #2
    I heard it was a problem with the label.
    Something about the length of time before cows can graze.
    Hopefully back before flee beetles but who knows?

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      #3
      Originally posted by caseih View Post
      Someone told me that it is still registered for use in Eastern Canada, just banned here?
      Get rid of one of the best tools we have for insect control…smart.

      Getting to the point that there should be a referendum for every decision that politicians and “industry leaders” make.

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        #4
        Originally posted by seldomseen View Post
        I heard it was a problem with the label.
        Something about the length of time before cows can graze.
        Hopefully back before flee beetles but who knows?
        Nope , gone for 23
        But not in Eastern Canada
        No problem there

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          #5
          Lorsban gone, matador gone we are going to have a big wreck one of these years and will have no tools whatsoever.

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            #6
            Originally posted by seldomseen View Post
            I heard it was a problem with the label.
            Something about the length of time before cows can graze.
            Hopefully back before flee beetles but who knows?
            Yes I heard agcanada officials found traces of the chemical in milk. So there are specifically not wanting this chemical sprayed on plants that will be then used as feed stock in Canada (canola meal). Supposedly Syngenta is out of the game for sure and adama may bring their generic back in 24 once the product gets relabeled.

            This is a made in Canada problem and is a non issue with export market.

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              #7
              Seems kind of odd that it's OK to spray bugs off of blueberries and broccoli and other fruits and vegetables for direct human consumption but shut down on anything that might be fed to a dairy cow because it might come through in the milk.

              Newer stuff is alway much more expensive and the #1 qualification is short or no residual activity.

              Hard to know what all the factors are in the decision to pull it.
              All comes down to risk and reward for them.

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                #8
                FBN is still selling it

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by jdg364 View Post
                  Yes I heard agcanada officials found traces of the chemical in milk. So there are specifically not wanting this chemical sprayed on plants that will be then used as feed stock in Canada (canola meal). Supposedly Syngenta is out of the game for sure and adama may bring their generic back in 24 once the product gets relabeled.

                  This is a made in Canada problem and is a non issue with export market.
                  So why ok in eastern Canada ffs ?

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by furrowtickler View Post
                    So why ok in eastern Canada ffs ?
                    It's not like there are any dairy cows in Eastern Canada or anything like that.

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by furrowtickler View Post
                      So why ok in eastern Canada ffs ?
                      Cause they vote liberal

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                        #12
                        This is a failure of our regulatory agency (PMRA) in at least a couple ways.
                        The re-evaluation process for lambda-cyhalothrin found insufficient data to support uses where the treated product ends up as animal feed. In Canada there is no testing of feedstock only testing of meat and milk. In the absence of data, the Mrl reverts to default of 0.01ppm which is essentially the level of detection (none).
                        Data that was produced by the CGC through the cargo monitor program was deemed too dated by PMRA (the product has been around for 34 years-yep dated).
                        The EPA in the US also did a re-eval on the product-and actually commissioned and completed a complete residue data set. Consequently, L C remains labeled and registered for use in the US where by the way they do monitor/test feedstock for residue.
                        PMRA had access to the EPA data and refused to consider it.
                        The crux of the issue is the default Mrl in feed which is completely unworkable in Canada since feed isn’t tested. Any trace amount showing up in milk or meat would all get blamed back to feed.
                        This has nothing to do with safety anywhere. MRLs are established in many countries and via Codex and consider that they are typically set 100 times lower than any risk to consumers.

                        It’s likely this will get worked out but not til the ‘24 season.

                        It’s a failure of PMRA to not cooperate with the EPA and keep the label current, and it’s also a failure to not consider what alternative control might be available (there is none for certain applications, aphids in lentil for example)

                        This reeks of political meddling in the regulatory process (although there is no specific evidence in this case, there was clearly during the last election pertaining to the glyphosate Mrl changes)

                        The agriculture industry in Canada has a formidable foe-our national government

                        Mercy if this next year brings more grasshoppers, flea beetles or aphids, or diamondback moths or…

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