Bourgualt agronomy

[LEP]

I have had a Morris maxum, a 5710 and now a paralink.

I agree that the air distribution system on a bourgault could use an update. The Morris distribution system was very gentle.

However, I rarely plug a run now. The Morris we constantly had to be on the lookout for a plug.

We can seed 3 to 3,500 acres of canola a year and end up with a half a small bag of canola seed leftover. Couldn't do that with the Morris without climbing in the tank 4 times to sweep it down.

We calibrate about three times after a seed change and check it every couple days after that. Usually right on.

I have never grown crops as nice and even as I have since I got a paralink. It could be our conditions in our local area here. 90-95% are bg paralink here with the next most popular being vaderstad and then flexicoil, John Deere or Morris.

[fjlip]

Sounds like the 5710 can finish it's life on this dirt. NO moving parts. 1" opener with 3.5" steel packers and scr apers...no depth issues.
BG tank is so simple, guess I can compromise on accuracy... still can end up with less than a bag of canola...





Neighbors Paralink not even as good 20 times the price...lots is operator, in a hurry, hired operators...

[fjlip]

Apparently SCR APERS are not allowed....ra pe word

[Guest]

i agree , I'm liking simple more with every passing year !
and hoping the ole morris maxim 2 can finish me off
a fella here has an old eeze on air seeder with plastic add on packers, 7 series morris tank , never misses
still say the best seeding tool ever made for the NE swamp would be the BG 8810 or 8910

[Hamloc]

Looking at Bourgault’s agronomy trials, they use 140 lbs. of actual N applied on wheat. And we wonder why the government wants to lower our nitrogen usage by 30%. I only use 80 lbs. of actual N applied on wheat, I guess I must be a cheapskate.

[cropgrower]

26 us gallons of 28-0-0 i side band on my wheat. thats 78 lbs actual N , and often grow 60 bu wheat when things go right

[FarmJunkie]

Looking at Bourgault’s agronomy trials, they use 140 lbs. of actual N applied on wheat. And we wonder why the government wants to lower our nitrogen usage by 30%. I only use 80 lbs. of actual N applied on wheat, I guess I must be a cheapskate.

All depends on yield goals and economics of your farm. Nothing wrong with using 140 lbs of N if your achieving 90-100 bu/ac yields.

[shtferbrains]

With 13.5+ protein.
The N is not gone if you don't use it.

I go back to the 50 to 70# days when you ssed of didn't want too much.
Missed a lot of opertunity at those rates.

[Herc]

All depends on yield goals and economics of your farm. Nothing wrong with using 140 lbs of N if your achieving 90-100 bu/ac yields.

They had 108 lbs residual on their soil sample. So 248 lbs N to grow 90-100 bpa…..

[FarmJunkie]

They had 108 lbs residual on their soil sample. So 248 lbs N to grow 90-100 bpa…..

Sounds right. About 2.5 lbs per bushel. Canolas over 3

[Freightshaker]

They use 140 N to try and get poor emergence on the dual shank seedhawk. 140N plus 108N residual plus 80-100 N from mineralization or 330-350 total N. Works out to a 130 bpa target which the long term area average is likely half that.

Comes down to its not agronomy, its bourgault agronomy, i.e. find a marketing gimmick.

[Wheatking]

They use 140 N to try and get poor emergence on the dual shank seedhawk. 140N plus 108N residual plus 80-100 N from mineralization or 330-350 total N. Works out to a 130 bpa target which the long term area average is likely half that.

Comes down to its not agronomy, its bourgault agronomy, i.e. find a marketing gimmick.

I used to have a seedhawk, forgot to turn the N on for a strip one year, could see a significant emergence difference in the canola. Next year I started doing trials and noticed that there was a germ difference in all crops with N in the sideband, canola was the worst followed by the barley and wheat and oats. Unless I was on the ground doing counts it was impossible to pick out by eye in the cereals. I did varying N rates in all of the crops and the rates that affected germ where suprisingly low, approximately 60lbs. My Canola n rates are ussually in the 100-120lb range, wheat 100, barley 80, oats 75. But the big question is, did it affect yield, and the answer is that NO it did not affect the yield significantly, not anymore than a bushel or two, or something that I could say it definetley made a big difference. It did delay maturity though, especially in canola.

I do use a trimax system from Bg, and I put 80% of my N down the MRB's, 15% side band, and a few lbs with the seed as well as some p with the seed. Rest of the p s and K go down the sideband. All that being said the seedhawk is an excellent drill, and I raised some excellent crops with it. The most important part is to get the seed out of the bin and into the ground.