Project N. They’re at it again

[WiltonRanch]

Producer article the other day about this again. Figuring $1.7 billion build cost. Looking for $533 million “investment” from farmers. Mann said the deal previously fell through because they couldn’t buy the wheat board. Oh boy they’re better to buy a feedlot and turn bullshit into fertilizer.

[Sodbuster]

Just doing another membership drive.

[Marusko]

1.76 billion plant...... ten years ago... double that to build today, i bet

actually they're saying the original plant was going to be producing 1.2million tonnes of urea, 425,000 tonnes of UAN

and now 525,000 tonnes is 75% of capacity, so 700,000 tonnes a year

half the capacity

sounds about right!

[BTO780]

Ask the Turd for some cash he is giving money to everyone. Oh ya he has an agenda to cut fert, starve the world, and take our farms.
Real piece of ……!!!!

[TASFarms]

Why they are trying to build the price is high. Price is lower now what. Who would want to invest money in a fertilizer plant with esg getting swung into full motion

[bobofthenorth]

When they are trying to build the price is high. Price is lower now what. Who would want to invest money in a fertilizer plant with esg getting swung into full motion

INVEST?? Surely you jest. This is an ongoing lifestyle project for the Mann brothers. Why would they stop? Its worked extremely well so far.

[wmoebis]

Are you farmers against anyone building fertilizer plant or is it just FNA?

[WiltonRanch]

Are you farmers against anyone building fertilizer plant or is it just FNA?

Think we’re against pyramid schemes and two bit hucksters.

[WiltonRanch]

Got to try anything to break the price gouging !

If it was from a reputable outfit or a true cooperative of farmers wishing to do so we wouldn’t be skeptical of this particular venture. Looking back it is laughable the schemes these guys came up with to bring in seed capitol for. Whether it was the terminal in Vancouver, fertilizer plant, or CWB purchase the ideas looked so beneficial for us farmers but realistically infeasible. They’re kinda smart and didn’t back themselves into the corner like a Jerusalem artichoke or pigeon king ponzi but know what plays on guys heart strings at the time to open their purse strings. They’re bloody sick if you ask me.

[shtferbrains]

Have accumulated some baggage.

[Livewire]

Isn’t it great to own land after making payments on it instead of renting it and enabling someone else to own it?

Buying fertilizer the current way you WILL be paying to build a fertilizer plant anyway.

AND you will own nothing in the end.
AND you will still be held ransom when you want to buy fertilizer.
Some farmers need to re-do their grade 8 math.
No real surprise we’re at the bottom of the food chain.

[LEP]

Isn’t it great to own land after making payments on it instead of renting it and enabling someone else to own it?

Buying fertilizer the current way you WILL be paying to build a fertilizer plant anyway.

AND you will own nothing in the end.
AND you will still be held ransom when you want to buy fertilizer.
Some farmers need to re-do their grade 8 math.
No real surprise we’re at the bottom of the food chain.

That makes sense, but the people behind this aren't the ones who can deliver on a multi billion dollar project.

It's a humongous task for people with spotless reputations let alone these clowns.

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[QUOTE: You will still be held ransom when you want to buy fertilizer.
Some farmers need to re-do their grade 5 math.
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Agree with above.

Also, we all have been trained by our government and our business leaders that there are two answers when they divide farmers. They like them both, since neither does your bottom line any good. x/x.

The first, in math division, is that if you if you put nothing in, you are guaranteed to get nothing out. The second, in math, is that you only break even. But, at least you had a chance to participate in something that can benefit the idea makers.

One of those groups would rather get rid of farmers, totally. Like x-x. Can you guess which one?

Now, are you a positive farmer? If you are, then you can bet, using your grade 5 math, that government and our business leaders will not like you potentially taking from their bottom line. x+x.

Now imagine the risk of multiple farmers. xxx. Mentioned, just to kiss the two groups off!

[WiltonRanch]

That makes sense, but the people behind this aren't the ones who can deliver on a multi billion dollar project.

It's a humongous task for people with spotless reputations let alone these clowns.

Yep they want payment for chemical 6 months before you need but deliver a month after you need it. Quite consistently. Fertilizer would be interesting to say the least.

[LEP]

Yep they want payment for chemical 6 months before you need but deliver a month after you need it. Quite consistently. Fertilizer would be interesting to say the least.

Yup. Be paying this year for fertilizer this year for fert delivered in two.