Project N. They’re at it again

[blackpowder]

Isn’t it great to own land after making payments on it instead of renting it and enabling someone else to own it?

Buying fertilizer the current way you WILL be paying to build a fertilizer plant anyway.

AND you will own nothing in the end.
AND you will still be held ransom when you want to buy fertilizer.
Some farmers need to re-do their grade 8 math.
No real surprise we’re at the bottom of the food chain.

By that thought train, you own some of Exxon, Weston, Nutrien and John Deere. Not a bad portfolio if you wrote the check to do so.

[furrowtickler]

Not sure how this will work with the current coalition trying to eliminate N at the end of the day . If you believe the current policy of voluntary 30% is not going to turn into 100% completely N ban you still believe in Santa and the tooth fairy and unicorns 🦄 to supply the majority of our power by 2030 . I am actually feeling sorry for our society now .
10 years too late

[agstar77]

If government is really serious about reducing N , throw research at nodulating wheat and canola.

[furrowtickler]

If government is really serious about reducing N , throw research at nodulating wheat and canola.

The tec is there , has been for a few years . Some of it has been suppressed by the big companies till just recently. But the first results are very iffy .
There are several products out there , I tried one about 5 years ago called IonFX I believe. Results were disappointing for the cost
It’s coming it’s a jostling position now with big companies buying out biological outfits and will be bringing them to market .
The most important thing will be ROI to us the farmers . I have not seen it yet . Maybe in high yield areas it may show some return but I have yet to see positive data on farm

[furrowtickler]

Tried a couple this year and did not see any significant yield gain .
The idea sounds great but yet to see significant advantage in ROI on these yet .
I think it was Envita and Nutritia . I will have to double check
I would hate to be forced to use these products yet to “ replace 30% or more N” with these products

[furrowtickler]

Some recent research on Bio N products in the US .

[jamesb]

https://www.ndsu.edu/fileadmin/snrs/Files/SF2080_Performance_of_Selected_N-fixing_Products.pdf

[sawfly1]

The problem lies in what the other companies will do. As soon as your up and running the other companies will undercut
You till you lose your backing. Farmers and thier $ . Years ago we were getting
Hósed and FNA brought urea into Churchill from Russia. But the big boys cut the price and made it uneconmical to continue. Well at least until your out of business. Then back up she goes.
Competitive priceing its called .
The polite term . The real term is colusion and price fixing

[FarmJunkie]

The problem lies in what the other companies will do. As soon as your up and running the other companies will undercut
You till you lose your backing. Farmers and thier $ . Years ago we were getting
Hósed and FNA brought urea into Churchill from Russia. But the big boys cut the price and made it uneconmical to continue. Well at least until your out of business. Then back up she goes.
Competitive priceing its called .
The polite term . The real term is colusion and price fixing

Right absolutely right. They know if your not in it for the long haul they can flush u out with no profit for a year or two. U need deep pockets to weather the storm until it hurts them to.