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    #13
    Originally posted by sumdumguy View Post
    If you can’t see through this clown act on both the actor’s part, you ought to go get help. Trudeau, the only fool that would fall for this fiasco.
    Putin's unjustified invasion of Ukraine which he first call a " special military operation" back in Feb 2022 that was only to last three days is now finally calling it for what it is, a war, but to you it's just a fiasco.

    Poke that head of yours out from it's shell for once and maybe you'll finally understand what Putin's end game was right from the beginning.

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      #14
      There are nations who have spent their entire existence warring. Sort of like some people. All the money in the world isn’t going to stop them. If you want to join into the hubrous, go ahead - be my guest. Take on Russia and China and all the rest. Good Luck🍀

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        #15
        Originally posted by sumdumguy View Post
        There are nations who have spent their entire existence warring. Sort of like some people. All the money in the world isn’t going to stop them. If you want to join into the hubrous, go ahead - be my guest. Take on Russia and China and all the rest. Good Luck🍀
        Hell of an answer Sum, just let Putin have free reign over Ukraine and eventually the rest of the former Soviet Union with Poland on the horizon.

        Isn't that the same approach the USA used before Japan bombed Peral Harbor?

        Open your eyes for once and look to the North, the Bear isn't that far away.

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          #16
          What do you prefer to do, take your entire family over there to fight the Russians? We welcomed all the Ukrainians who didn’t want to live under Putin. Some Ukrainians want to be ruled by Russia.

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            #17
            Originally posted by sumdumguy View Post
            What do you prefer to do, take your entire family over there to fight the Russians? We welcomed all the Ukrainians who didn’t want to live under Putin. Some Ukrainians want to be ruled by Russia.
            WE welcome all Ukrainians not wanting to live under Russian rule.

            What about the remaining 8-10 million ( mostly women and children)who have fled to neighboring countries and 20 million plus who have remained in Ukraine who do not want their freedom and motherland taken away from them by, what should they do Sum?

            Sum, obviously those Ukrainians who are fighting for Ukraine's independence value their freedom a hell a lot more than you value it for them.

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              #18
              Ukraine so called independent ONLY since 1991.

              Been said MANY times....who wants WW 3? Your existence is done, your children never have a life, your grands are in hock forever, a shitty life if alive. Get real, if CRAZY Putin wants world we are phucked anyway, if it's just east Ukraine, let it be.

              Where are the correct borders? They have been moved countless times in a 1000 years.
              People move, wars happened, my ancestors were POLISH, lived S of Ternopil. Now Ukraine?

              Should I be upset?

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                #19
                And I repeat Forage, “What do you think we should do to help Ukraine? “ we’ve opened our doors, our wallets, our jobs and homes. We don’t even know how many billions of dollars we’ve spent defending the country, now answer my question. What do you see as the end-result? A free Ukraine? Ukraine split-up? A negotiated settlement? World War III? How many have to die before things change? You are the one who knows, for sure.

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                  #20
                  I’d like to know how many millionaires have turned into billionaire since this whole thing started. I don’t believe for one second all the money the moron gave will be going to the right cause. Zelenskyy will probably be way richer when this is all done and on the backs of his citizens.

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                    #21
                    Originally posted by sumdumguy View Post
                    And I repeat Forage, “What do you think we should do to help Ukraine? “ we’ve opened our doors, our wallets, our jobs and homes. We don’t even know how many billions of dollars we’ve spent defending the country, now answer my question. What do you see as the end-result? A free Ukraine? Ukraine split-up? A negotiated settlement? World War III? How many have to die before things change? You are the one who knows, for sure.
                    I'm not he one to decide what Ukrainians should settle for, it's their country. I will support what the Ukrainian people decide upon, I'm living in Canada.

                    Putin expected to take control of Kyiv in three days and Ukrainian's would rise up to overthrow Volodymyr Zelensky and welcome Putin taking control of Ukraine.

                    The Ukrainian forces who represent the people of Ukraine sent the Russian army retreating. Obviously, Ukrainians are willing and wanting to fight for their freedom with Zelensky as their President.

                    I see Zelensky walks in the streets of various Ukraine cities and parts of the country very freely, where as Putin only shows up at rallies with high security. Wonder why that is, and what does that tell you?

                    If Harper was still PM he would be supporting Ukraine and Zelensky as President, and I wouldn't be hearing squat for any of you.

                    It all boils down to that for many of you on Agriville.
                    Last edited by foragefarmer; Jun 11, 2023, 21:26.

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                      #22
                      The Ukrainian people don’t get a vote, all they get is to do is fight and die in a proxy war, all the while Zelensky pockets coke and cash.

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                        #23
                        It’s quite a dilemma all right and I understand that most people would like to help but what about all the nations who are overtaken?

                        Getting back to Uk: I happen to know a handful of Ukrainian imigrants from a group I belong to and gotta tell you none of them have brought their relatives here nor have they gone to Ukraine to fight. They hold very little hope for the stance Z is taking. They told me that a negotiated effort should be taken, that Ukrainians should be given the option of their destiny, either to go with Russia or fight. They emphasize the fact that they can’t discuss this issue at all with their left-behind relatives because they are all over the place, a lot of them siding with Russia. Believe it or not. So they just keep their noses out of it.

                        Z doesn’t have enough “good friends like Canada” so now he’s knocking on NATO’s door again asking NATO to let Ukraine in.
                        Last edited by sumdumguy; Jun 12, 2023, 08:07.

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                          #24
                          Originally posted by Goodtime View Post

                          Sorry to skirt around the important Ukraine issue............

                          Back to the thread topic. This is a scream. After the PMs "special rapporteur" resigns and the other opposition parties pass a motion 3 times to get a public inquiry Intergovernmental Affairs Minister Dominic LeBlanc on Saturday said cabinet was awaiting guidance from opposition parties. To "make suggestions about who could lead the public inquiry" but "we have to see who they are going to suggest". LeBlanc also raised concerns about terms of reference and a timeline. The house adjourns for summer June 23. "We're prepared as a government to support a public process". (insert emoji here for liars) Oh look, a Canadian pm in Ukraine!

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