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    #49
    Originally posted by mustardman View Post
    You can use matador on durum. But Remember it kills Everything hopper enemies , bees etc
    If you have enough crop cover use Coragen- it doesn’t kill on contact- they die after eating vegetation and can last up to 21 days/. Has worked well for us
    Matador doesn’t kill bees ?
    Spray it in leaf cutter fields almost every year
    Just don’t spray when bees foraging which is a good practice anyway

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      #50
      Some elevators not buying wheat sprayed with matador

      Locally Cargill has announced that they will not be buying wheat sprayed with matador or its generics. You will have to sign your life away on the declaration before delivery.

      So before spraying the hoppers you might want to have a talk with your grain buyer.

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        #51
        Originally posted by poorboy View Post
        Locally Cargill has announced that they will not be buying wheat sprayed with matador or its generics. You will have to sign your life away on the declaration before delivery.

        So before spraying the hoppers you might want to have a talk with your grain buyer.
        If the hoppers eat all the wheat you won't be dealing with Cargill anyway just leave the fert bill there for them to deal with

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          #52
          Originally posted by Old Cowzilla View Post
          If the hoppers eat all the wheat you won't be dealing with Cargill anyway just leave the fert bill there for them to deal with
          I just meant that some companies don’t want you using matador. Yes hoppers still need to be sprayed.

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            #53
            Originally posted by caseih View Post
            Matador doesn’t kill bees ?
            Spray it in leaf cutter fields almost every year
            Just don’t spray when bees foraging which is a good practice anyway
            Correct.

            We always spray Matador very early in the morning when it's cool and the bees are inactive and nesting.

            Safe for Bees to be on the plants four hours after spraying Matador, but it will kill chewing bugs 10-14 days after being applied.

            Still, we always worry and are concerned for our native pollinators.

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              #54
              Originally posted by poorboy View Post
              I just meant that some companies don’t want you using matador. Yes hoppers still need to be sprayed.
              I hear ya read it wrong. Options getting pretty limited these days. Was told by Co-op that Silencer was a generic Matador was I mislead ?

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                #55
                Oh and we found army worms in our Ryegrass field yesterday more fun to deal with just in case we are tired of dealing with grasshoppers !

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                  #56
                  Originally posted by foragefarmer View Post
                  Correct.

                  We always spray Matador very early in the morning when it's cool and the bees are inactive and nesting.

                  Safe for Bees to be on the plants four hours after spraying Matador, but it will kill chewing bugs 10-14 days after being applied.

                  Still, we always worry and are concerned for our native pollinators.
                  Trouble is Most farmers dont give a rats ass and spray at any time they want

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                    #57
                    Originally posted by poorboy View Post
                    Locally Cargill has announced that they will not be buying wheat sprayed with matador or its generics. You will have to sign your life away on the declaration before delivery.

                    So before spraying the hoppers you might want to have a talk with your grain buyer.
                    Shoot, shovel, shut up!!

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                      #58
                      To answer my own question, will wheat starting to head out make more tillers if conditions improve?
                      Checked my worst early seated wheat today. The areas that were still green but thin and heading out early have many new tillers coming. Areas that had the bottom leaves turning yellow have a few tillers coming but nothing substantial.

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                        #59
                        Originally posted by AlbertaFarmer5 View Post
                        To answer my own question, will wheat starting to head out make more tillers if conditions improve?
                        Checked my worst early seated wheat today. The areas that were still green but thin and heading out early have many new tillers coming. Areas that had the bottom leaves turning yellow have a few tillers coming but nothing substantial.
                        Welcome to the club.

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                          We got over a 1/4 of an inch yesterday late in the afternoon out of nothing. Still damp tonight driving home.

                          Drew says 10 more days of hit and miss and dryer pattern. Maybe the Mexican rainy season will reach canada.

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