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    #21
    Originally posted by wheatking16 View Post
    I had a salesman explain that to me 20 years ago. I guess it has been a thing for a long time.
    So who gets stuck holding the bag at the end of the day?

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      #22
      Originally posted by wheatking16 View Post
      I had a salesman explain that to me 20 years ago. I guess it has been a thing for a long time.
      So if you flipped your line using a lease in the last yr, those interest rates are 6-9% now.

      So some other company pays out your lease eats that cost and gets you into another color.

      These guys in the vid above have gone from green to red and now to fendt in just the last few yrs. Put up a bunch of new bins too.

      And buying land how. I am trying to reinstate a $60K credit line I had closed with FCC a few yrs ago and they are pouring over my financials like I just got out of prison.
      Last edited by jazz; Jul 27, 2023, 09:58.

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        #23
        Originally posted by makar View Post
        Flipping to avoid payments.
        So when do the chickens come to ROOST? When will the piper get paid? This is not a FREE machinery market. Big iron manufacturers are to blame.

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          #24
          Originally posted by jazz View Post
          So if you flipped your line using a lease in the last yr, those interest rates are 6-9% now.

          So some other company pays out your lease eats that cost and gets you into another color.

          These guys in the vid above have gone from green to red and now to fendt in just the last few yrs. Put up a bunch of new bins too.

          And buying land how. I am trying to reinstate a $60K credit line I had closed with FCC a few yrs ago and they are pouring over my financials like I just got out of prison.
          Fendt combines are gone, back to green. He now has a farm started up north. Building bins, renting and buying land. Building bins buying more machinery, driving back and forth 6 hrs between farms. Trucks machinery, sprayers, etc back and forth. Personally I don’t get it.
          You would think gas and fuel is .25/gallon.

          He favourite saying is “we are always looking to expand”.

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            #25
            Once most of these big farms hit a certain level it’s a different monetary level . In order to keep the hamster wheel spinning they need to expand at 7% per year . That was one thing I was told .
            Not in that realm but that’s part of it I think ?

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              #26
              Originally posted by furrowtickler View Post
              Once most of these big farms hit a certain level it’s a different monetary level . In order to keep the hamster wheel spinning they need to expand at 7% per year . That was one thing I was told .
              Not in that realm but that’s part of it I think ?
              Wouldn't that indicate that it is essentially a pyramid scheme? Constantly requiring growth to cover up or paper over past sins?
              I've been told that it is very difficult to accurately analyze the finances of constantly expanding business. Only when they are standing still is it possible to understand the whole picture.

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                #27
                Sounds just like the FEDS, distract, change, update, add civil servants...grow grow.

                I really wonder if there is an end game...will there ever be enough or go on till they die?

                Heard one say, "it was fun while it lasted"

                Apparently nobody commenting is trying this. We all know one of these.

                Legacy is what I hear.

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