Wheat grading

[Blaithin]

They got the magnifying glass out looking for sprouts !

Are your eyes good enough to make sure a grain is sprouted and if it's severe or not? Mine aren't always. Better to make sure with a magnifier than just toss it in a bowl and weigh it up.

Don't worry, if it is sprouted and they miss a few, you'll still get caught by a shitty FN

[fjlip]

or DEW, or Harper

[Blaithin]

Two years ago around here, but more so east, some had major issues with canola sprouting. Seed Cos tried to figure out what was going on and the determination was the heat and drought had triggered a hormone response in some that lit up sprouting. I heard of samples that were 80-90% sprouted.

Or maybe it was last year and the hormones were because the seed was from the year prior in the super heat and drought.

All the years blend together 😂

Either way, it doesn’t always come down to getting rained on.

[furrowtickler]

So far one elevator graded most as a 2 hrsw , said frost and bleach with average protein at 12.6
The other elevator will buy all 4200 tn for a #1 , 13 pro . Close to $.50 difference.
Sent same samples to two other elevators yesterday.

Sure is strange how the could possibly be frost in any of our wheat as it was in the bin for a week before any frost in area . That and half our wheat was in bin before any rain that caused bleaching.
Maybe it rained and froze in the bin after harvest on that first 2000 tn ?? 🤔

This leads to the frustrations of grading wheat Blathin
Glad we have several choices here .

[BTO780]

Reminds me the yr the crooks were climbing in trucks like for deer crap. Guess deer can climb bins now. What a joke.

[jazz]

I dont know furrow, everything is being graded super easy around here. Durum with pieball, #1. Canola with 10% dockage, called 1%.

These guys are hungry for volume.

[furrowtickler]

I dont know furrow, everything is being graded super easy around here. Durum with pieball, #1. Canola with 10% dockage, called 1%.

These guys are hungry for volume.

Well I know this area is not grading supper easy on wheat , as does every other farmer in this area
Magically come spring it all changes

[furrowtickler]

It just comes down to some common sense , there was zero frost here before the majority of the wheat was off and in the bin in this area .
Makes one really question the grading in some elevators.
And it can add up to huge dollars in a year when profits will be very tight in most cases .

[zeefarmer]

Same with LGL samples. One place, all #2, another had some #1, x2 and #2's, while pulse plant 3 was almost all x3-#3's. At $0.07/lb spread between a #2 and #3, it's pretty clear on who got the business and who didn't.


ALWAYS do your due diligence and shop around. It's dangerous to get married to one place.

[Guest]

Offered #2 for all our wheat
Pretty happy with that as it has some real issues

[Blaithin]

Furrow it’s FRHTS. Frost/Heatstress. You may not have got frost but the crop can still look like it did.

The bleached has shown up here in the later stuff and it does make for a less attractive wheat on the mat, but it’s not a degrading factor. Need to get down and look at it because from two feet away it doesn’t look great, but lots here is still an easy #1 even bleached. That is the bonus of multiple elevators. If one is trying to say the bleached is piebald another should be calling it right. Or if they’re trying to pass the bleached off as mildew. Get them to show you.

If you really want to see if they’ll squirm, tell them to send the sample away.

I had a farmer in yesterday with two samples. First was an easy 1, second I said was likely a feed for frost but he might be able to get it away as a 3. He did the “what frost?! We didn’t have frost!” line, then tried to say it must be a 2, and in the end we said we’d send it off to SGS to get a second opinion on it. I’m not terribly worried it’ll come back a 2.

[fjlip]

All wheat #1 13.5%. CGC agrees also...we happy.

[Blaithin]

Another thing you can run into grading bin samples is covering their butts.

If I have something I think is a bottom 1 as a bin sample, I’ll call it a top 2. It’s me telling management don’t buy 800 tonnes of this and think it’s a good blending tool. It can be a 1 but it can’t support bringing other grain up. Covers our bases so when we call it in we aren’t suddenly surprised by a grade. A year with a lot of amazing wheat theres tonnes of blending power so a bottom 1 is likely to stay a bottom 1 but if there’s more poor grades out there bottom grades aren’t as helpful.

I also know they’re buying pretty much every top 2 as a 1 so it’s not doing anything besides helping us when we call that grain in.

Probably the number one scribbled out and rewritten part on any grading sheet is if the wheat grades a bottom grade or a top grade. That can easily change elevator to elevator and doesn’t necessarily mean there's a big difference between how they’re grading it.

[furrowtickler]

Another thing you can run into grading bin samples is covering their butts.

If I have something I think is a bottom 1 as a bin sample, I’ll call it a top 2. It’s me telling management don’t buy 800 tonnes of this and think it’s a good blending tool. It can be a 1 but it can’t support bringing other grain up. Covers our bases so when we call it in we aren’t suddenly surprised by a grade. A year with a lot of amazing wheat theres tonnes of blending power so a bottom 1 is likely to stay a bottom 1 but if there’s more poor grades out there bottom grades aren’t as helpful.

I also know they’re buying pretty much every top 2 as a 1 so it’s not doing anything besides helping us when we call that grain in.

Probably the number one scribbled out and rewritten part on any grading sheet is if the wheat grades a bottom grade or a top grade. That can easily change elevator to elevator and doesn’t necessarily mean there's a big difference between how they’re grading it.

Very good points , but when it costs me $.50 a bus on 4200 tn , I have a huge issue with iffy grading .
Especially when things will be tight . 80% of us never had bumper crops to ignore it

[Herc]

My #1 wheat identifies as a #1 wheat, not a top #2? Very odd……