Wheat grading

[Blaithin]

Very good points , but when it costs me $.50 a bus on 4200 tn , I have a huge issue with iffy grading .
Especially when things will be tight . 80% of us never had bumper crops to ignore it

If they’re buying it as a 1, it doesn’t matter if they’ve put a 2 on their paper.

If they’re calling it a 2, and trying to buy it as a 2, and someone else has graded it a 1, either send it away or sell to the other.

My TLDR shortened version.

[walterm]

Very good points , but when it costs me $.50 a bus on 4200 tn , I have a huge issue with iffy grading .
Especially when things will be tight . 80% of us never had bumper crops to ignore it

Can't they pay you what ever they want for what quality you have? Nobody is telling what to pay for grades anymore. Negotiate a higher price.

[LEP]

Exactly. I don't care what grade they give my grain if they give me a price I like.

[Freightshaker]

Agreed. Price is all that should matter. But same time call a spade a spade.

[furrowtickler]

Obviously will take best deal , will wait till other two send results back later today .
Point is frost damage , really ? Definitely lose any faith in the grading at some elevators.
Anyway , glad there are several options in this area .

[Blaithin]

Why is the assumption that you have a 1 and one elevator is misgrading it a 2?

Perhaps you have a 2 and one is calling it a 1 just because that's what they're buying it as. As I've said, buying it as a 1 doesn't necessarily mean it is a 1.

This seems similar to when people are certain their protein should be higher and when it's rechecked it's actually lower. Nobody ever seems to ask to retest because their protein seems to high.

[furrowtickler]

Why is the assumption that you have a 1 and one elevator is misgrading it a 2?

Perhaps you have a 2 and one is calling it a 1 just because that's what they're buying it as. As I've said, buying it as a 1 doesn't necessarily mean it is a 1.

This seems similar to when people are certain their protein should be higher and when it's rechecked it's actually lower. Nobody ever seems to ask to retest because their protein seems to high.

No assumption, it’s impossible to have frost damage to downgrade , that’s the point

[Blaithin]

No assumption, it’s impossible to have frost damage to downgrade , that’s the point

Is it impossible to have heat stress? Can you guarantee that no area in any of your fields ever received frost?

If they're seeing it, they're seeing it. Guess all that's left is you taking a grading course so you can see what they see. Only then could you actually say they're making something completely up.

[sumdumguy]

Grain grading is not an exact science. From our days in the pulse industry, if you took a sample to CGC in Moose Jaw, it could be graded an Extra 3 and when it was sent to Winnipeg, it would come back a One or Two.

[furrowtickler]

Is it impossible to have heat stress? Can you guarantee that no area in any of your fields ever received frost?

If they're seeing it, they're seeing it. Guess all that's left is you taking a grading course so you can see what they see. Only then could you actually say they're making something completely up.

Yup there is some heat stress
Absolutely guaranteed no frost on the stuff they graded with frost
Sorry , can’t be frost if it’s been in the bin for 2 weeks before any frost was remotely in area , that i. Know for a fact .

[walterm]

Yup there is some heat stress
Absolutely guaranteed no frost on the stuff they graded with frost
Sorry , can’t be frost if it’s been in the bin for 2 weeks before any frost was remotely in area , that i. Know for a fact .

Did you see any heat stress or frost damage in the sample?

[walterm]

Same with LGL samples. One place, all #2, another had some #1, x2 and #2's, while pulse plant 3 was almost all x3-#3's. At $0.07/lb spread between a #2 and #3, it's pretty clear on who got the business and who didn't.


ALWAYS do your due diligence and shop around. It's dangerous to get married to one place.

What was the degrading factors? Did they all handle samples in the proper manor? If one is getting high degrading factor someone isn't doing it right. You have to watch to see what they do. Just like a teller counting your change or counting your cash.

[TOM4CWB]

Kind of ironic that no one talking about falling numbers… the most important factor in wheat quality … along with protein and bushel weight.

Functional attributes are most important to flour millers and bakers when formulating wheat grist blends for best end use quality and performance.

Cheers

[Blaithin]

Mills aren’t terribly fond of frosted wheat with bran issues.

[furrowtickler]

Mills aren’t terribly fond of frosted wheat with bran issues.

True, that’s why P&H , who sends a lot of wheat to its mills east , offered a slight premium , for all of it , cause there is no frost in it , even remotely.
Will hopefully see if any better offers come around from the other two locations today .
Not sure if holding good wheat this winter will pay or not , or take a decent offer now and replace with paper in case of a winter rally ?