Wheat grading

[Guest]

Offered #2 for all our wheat
Pretty happy with that as it has some real issues

[Blaithin]

Furrow it’s FRHTS. Frost/Heatstress. You may not have got frost but the crop can still look like it did.

The bleached has shown up here in the later stuff and it does make for a less attractive wheat on the mat, but it’s not a degrading factor. Need to get down and look at it because from two feet away it doesn’t look great, but lots here is still an easy #1 even bleached. That is the bonus of multiple elevators. If one is trying to say the bleached is piebald another should be calling it right. Or if they’re trying to pass the bleached off as mildew. Get them to show you.

If you really want to see if they’ll squirm, tell them to send the sample away.

I had a farmer in yesterday with two samples. First was an easy 1, second I said was likely a feed for frost but he might be able to get it away as a 3. He did the “what frost?! We didn’t have frost!” line, then tried to say it must be a 2, and in the end we said we’d send it off to SGS to get a second opinion on it. I’m not terribly worried it’ll come back a 2.

[fjlip]

All wheat #1 13.5%. CGC agrees also...we happy.

[Blaithin]

Another thing you can run into grading bin samples is covering their butts.

If I have something I think is a bottom 1 as a bin sample, I’ll call it a top 2. It’s me telling management don’t buy 800 tonnes of this and think it’s a good blending tool. It can be a 1 but it can’t support bringing other grain up. Covers our bases so when we call it in we aren’t suddenly surprised by a grade. A year with a lot of amazing wheat theres tonnes of blending power so a bottom 1 is likely to stay a bottom 1 but if there’s more poor grades out there bottom grades aren’t as helpful.

I also know they’re buying pretty much every top 2 as a 1 so it’s not doing anything besides helping us when we call that grain in.

Probably the number one scribbled out and rewritten part on any grading sheet is if the wheat grades a bottom grade or a top grade. That can easily change elevator to elevator and doesn’t necessarily mean there's a big difference between how they’re grading it.

[furrowtickler]

Another thing you can run into grading bin samples is covering their butts.

If I have something I think is a bottom 1 as a bin sample, I’ll call it a top 2. It’s me telling management don’t buy 800 tonnes of this and think it’s a good blending tool. It can be a 1 but it can’t support bringing other grain up. Covers our bases so when we call it in we aren’t suddenly surprised by a grade. A year with a lot of amazing wheat theres tonnes of blending power so a bottom 1 is likely to stay a bottom 1 but if there’s more poor grades out there bottom grades aren’t as helpful.

I also know they’re buying pretty much every top 2 as a 1 so it’s not doing anything besides helping us when we call that grain in.

Probably the number one scribbled out and rewritten part on any grading sheet is if the wheat grades a bottom grade or a top grade. That can easily change elevator to elevator and doesn’t necessarily mean there's a big difference between how they’re grading it.

Very good points , but when it costs me $.50 a bus on 4200 tn , I have a huge issue with iffy grading .
Especially when things will be tight . 80% of us never had bumper crops to ignore it

[Herc]

My #1 wheat identifies as a #1 wheat, not a top #2? Very odd……

[Blaithin]

Very good points , but when it costs me $.50 a bus on 4200 tn , I have a huge issue with iffy grading .
Especially when things will be tight . 80% of us never had bumper crops to ignore it

If they’re buying it as a 1, it doesn’t matter if they’ve put a 2 on their paper.

If they’re calling it a 2, and trying to buy it as a 2, and someone else has graded it a 1, either send it away or sell to the other.

My TLDR shortened version.

[walterm]

Very good points , but when it costs me $.50 a bus on 4200 tn , I have a huge issue with iffy grading .
Especially when things will be tight . 80% of us never had bumper crops to ignore it

Can't they pay you what ever they want for what quality you have? Nobody is telling what to pay for grades anymore. Negotiate a higher price.

[LEP]

Exactly. I don't care what grade they give my grain if they give me a price I like.

[Freightshaker]

Agreed. Price is all that should matter. But same time call a spade a spade.

[furrowtickler]

Obviously will take best deal , will wait till other two send results back later today .
Point is frost damage , really ? Definitely lose any faith in the grading at some elevators.
Anyway , glad there are several options in this area .

[Blaithin]

Why is the assumption that you have a 1 and one elevator is misgrading it a 2?

Perhaps you have a 2 and one is calling it a 1 just because that's what they're buying it as. As I've said, buying it as a 1 doesn't necessarily mean it is a 1.

This seems similar to when people are certain their protein should be higher and when it's rechecked it's actually lower. Nobody ever seems to ask to retest because their protein seems to high.