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    #81
    Originally posted by helmach View Post
    grain grading should become a standardized trade taught in trade schools, not a company wrote course based of the grading guidelines imo
    I looked into how does a job become a trade a few years ago, when all the changes were being made and even a bill to change the Grain Act was put forward but died on the table with the election.

    It is really very simple if the desire is there. I talked to the collage they said no problem in fact Olds still has all the equipment as well as other AG and trade collages would get on board if the need was there.

    The problem at that time was the collage said it has to be mandated by the gov't or the industry as it would have cost lots of $ to revamp the program, get it going with classrooms, instructors and maintain the course.

    The gov't at that time said it had to be industry driven before they would consider it. However the grain company representatives I talked to, weren't very interested because they didn't want a bunch of journeyman graders that could use their knowledge and credentials to promote themselves and demand higher wages etc.
    I went back to the Gov't representatives at that time and asked if Gov't and collages want it to be industry driven but elevators don't want it, where do you put farmers in the industry? If they want it would you mandate it? Their reply was Producers are only a supplier to the industry!

    Even some of the producer group reps that collect check off $ and work for farmers weren't interested in getting behind it. That said, a couple of volunteer and self funded producer groups were supportive but other farm groups and gov't just put them down or ignored the idea. So that explains why it never got put on the table for discussion.

    IF The gov't doesn't put farmers in the industry they are a supplier, not sure if this gov't has a different outlook or not.

    I gave up at that time.

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      #82
      Originally posted by wiseguy
      i see some of them ain't paying for 13.5 protein and higher ??

      just deducting for heat stress and/or bleaching !

      CROOKS !
      You’re one of those pleasant farmers all elevator employees are happy to have a chat with aren’t you.

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        #83
        Originally posted by wiseguy
        And your one of the those in the grading room I wouldn't waste time talking to !
        That would be peaceful.
        Last edited by Blaithin; Oct 2, 2023, 13:01.

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          #84
          Originally posted by wiseguy
          not too peaceful on the coffee/smoke break with all the chatter on how yous are going to cover your tracks !
          I’m decently good at my job. Never had a reason to need to cover my tracks.

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            #85
            To some degree it goes both ways.

            I have seen a lot of heated, Ergot, feed Wht etc hidden in the bottom of hoppers or high on slopes where they know the probe doesn't reach. But what those guys don't know is that their load is usually sampled again as it goes into the bin by a crosscut sampler that doesn't miss that stuff. Yep might not show up at first but that is why hand sampling their trucks all of a sudden starts and covering up for loss happens.

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              #86
              Originally posted by wiseguy
              could be stressful for you after a long day/week/month covering all those bases !

              Good Job being decent at your job !
              Yeah covering my bases. Not my tracks. If I had to cover my tracks it wouldn't make much sense to use it here as an example would it.

              Calling something a good 2 for FRHTS when I know it’s being bought as a 1 isn’t a Watergate for scamming. Everything I said in that post I’ll say to a farmer when I’m explaining why I’m grading what I am, should they come in and ask.
              Last edited by Blaithin; Oct 2, 2023, 14:13.

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                #87
                Originally posted by wiseguy
                Sounds like grain grading and dumping trucks is a good job for you !
                Yes, I find the schedule works well for me.

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                  #88
                  [QUOTE=wiseguy;575076]
                  Originally posted by wmoebis View Post
                  Years ago Alberta Wheat Pool, UGG and SWP (Farmer owned Grain Companies)

                  When farmers decided to amalgamate and ultimately sell out to foreign companies

                  Looks like you need a course on the formation and destruction of the Farmer owned grain companies !
                  That can be for a different trend. What is your recommendation to your representatives and officials on the grading issues that this trend is talking about?

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                    #89
                    I sent a sample in of our carry wheat, so they would know what we had to mix with this years wheat
                    #1 , 12.5 protein same as last year , didn’t tell them it was carry over either
                    We are really fortunate with our buyer/grader , seems pretty fair!
                    Appreciate your input Blaithin , nice to get input from the other side

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                      #90
                      Originally posted by caseih View Post
                      I sent a sample in of our carry wheat, so they would know what we had to mix with this years wheat
                      #1 , 12.5 protein same as last year , didn’t tell them it was carry over either
                      We are really fortunate with our buyer/grader , seems pretty fair!
                      Appreciate your input Blaithin , nice to get input from the other side
                      You should take your grades in from last year if you still have them. Often you can tell if you’re grading older wheat but I always wonder how close I am to what I called it before (if I was the grader)

                      Just like wanting to know what SGS or CGC calls a sample, knowing what it was called previously or by someone else helps calibrate eyes.

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