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    #31
    I have had canola sprout in swaths but so far not in standing during crappy weather spell. It is slower going straight cutting but still cleaner field than swathing if you got that twisted, tangled thing going on . Haven't used the auger reverser in years and don't miss the (beaver huts ) !!!!!!

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      #32
      Originally posted by biglentil View Post
      Didnt descicate a single acre of canola, took it all straight with green stems all came off dry, some too dry, was done harvest Sept 23 and not once did I say boy I wish I spent all those zeros on bringin in the plane so it could be far too dry and overload the seives. Yields all started with a 6, green count zero everytime. To each their own.
      Moose Jaw area ?
      That’s impressive for southern Sask 👍

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        #33
        I have a friend in southern SK who had a yield start with a “6” and nothing after that.

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          #34
          In my area roughly half of the canola was swathed, the other half straight cut. Personally I enjoy straight cutting canola but I haven’t done so in 3 years. I had a bin of canola that part of it heated. It was the bits of green material from the green stalks and the odd weed. It had been pre-harvested with glyphosate but I didn’t wait long enough. Most people grow LL canola and pre harvest with round up. Some used to add heat but found it was a waste of money. One neighbour used a plane and reglone on his RR canola. Personal observation is their is certainly canola shelled out from the sprayer track during pre-harvest and in certain fields some shelling where the canola hit the underside of the sprayer. Using no pre harvest would take tremendous patience.

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            #35
            As always every area slightly different. Every year different.
            What we did fung had a 10-30 bus difference. I always leave a AB line without.
            We are adding AMS to all our spray water next year to amend our water supply. Big difference. Noticed a difference with Heat added to Gly on wheat. I dunno.
            Trying a mega water with Reglone on peas next year.
            And if I can gain with the combine, I'll take whatever the sprayer shells as a trade off. Ongoing experiment.

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              #36
              This area used to be about 20% straight cut canola , getting closer to 50% now
              Every farm has a different take on it
              Some are all in , some will stick to swathing
              As seeding rates have gone up in cereals , pod shatter canola varieties performing very well in most cases and variable rate fertility gain acceptance , crops are much more even in maturity than even 10 years ago in general.
              This year in this area crops were very uneven due to lack of subsoil moisture in 90% of fields and with very little rain huge areas were drought stressed bad but low areas were heavy making it near impossible to harvest without a swather or desiccation. Also the dried out areas had significant regrowth after fall rains . If left unchecked it made for nightmare scenarios for any combine
              Agree 100% if you have good even crops that mature even and are clean , by all means leaving stand naturally is a no brainer . But that was not the case for many in western Canada this year .
              I hate spray tracks in crops , cause a headache on many levels .
              Rather not pre harvest a single acre and do some post harvest weed control if needed . But that’s in a perfect world .

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                #37
                Originally posted by blackpowder View Post
                As always every area slightly different. Every year different.
                What we did fung had a 10-30 bus difference. I always leave a AB line without.
                We are adding AMS to all our spray water next year to amend our water supply. Big difference. Noticed a difference with Heat added to Gly on wheat. I dunno.
                Trying a mega water with Reglone on peas next year.
                And if I can gain with the combine, I'll take whatever the sprayer shells as a trade off. Ongoing experiment.
                Just curious about adding AMS to ALL spray water. I add with glyphosate because of our hard water, and any chem which calls for it on the label. Any science behind that for other chemicals?

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by blackpowder View Post
                  As always every area slightly different. Every year different.
                  What we did fung had a 10-30 bus difference. I always leave a AB line without.
                  We are adding AMS to all our spray water next year to amend our water supply. Big difference. Noticed a difference with Heat added to Gly on wheat. I dunno.
                  Trying a mega water with Reglone on peas next year.
                  And if I can gain with the combine, I'll take whatever the sprayer shells as a trade off. Ongoing experiment.
                  Our fungi in canola gave back zero this year , we were dry
                  Always leave check strips

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by Hamloc View Post
                    In my area roughly half of the canola was swathed, the other half straight cut. Personally I enjoy straight cutting canola but I haven’t done so in 3 years. I had a bin of canola that part of it heated. It was the bits of green material from the green stalks and the odd weed. It had been pre-harvested with glyphosate but I didn’t wait long enough. Most people grow LL canola and pre harvest with round up. Some used to add heat but found it was a waste of money. One neighbour used a plane and reglone on his RR canola. Personal observation is their is certainly canola shelled out from the sprayer track during pre-harvest and in certain fields some shelling where the canola hit the underside of the sprayer. Using no pre harvest would take tremendous patience.
                    Impossible here , gauranteed

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by BTO780 View Post
                      I have a friend in southern SK who had a yield start with a “6” and nothing after that.
                      Maybe BL meant 6 BPA,my mistake , yes that would dry on its own

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                        #41
                        Originally posted by AlbertaFarmer5 View Post
                        Just curious about adding AMS to ALL spray water. I add with glyphosate because of our hard water, and any chem which calls for it on the label. Any science behind that for other chemicals?
                        AMS is a tank scrubber ,always a danger of pulling some group 2 outta some where in system
                        Happens around here with Viper/AMS too often

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                          #42
                          Only funged peas, barley and some wheat this year. Just stopped all expenses.
                          We use well water. Testing recommendations are find a different supply lol.
                          I'm not a chemist. Told to add AMS before chem so chem doesn't bind to water. High sodium and total dissolved solids.
                          Gonna plumb totes with dedicated pump and push straight into hotline bypassing the handler.
                          We have a resistant wild oats problem to various products. Thinking years of so so efficacy a contributor. Scetchy desiccation as well. Good to know about the tank scrubbing.
                          There are other products but cost 2.5x more.

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                            #43
                            I did half a section of durum at flower as a test, 1 tank caramba rest an Adama fungi forgot the name. Only yield difference on the section was what was lost to sprayer tracks.

                            Canola zero acres of fungi.

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                              #44
                              Originally posted by AlbertaFarmer5 View Post
                              Just curious about adding AMS to ALL spray water. I add with glyphosate because of our hard water, and any chem which calls for it on the label. Any science behind that for other chemicals?
                              Be careful. Get a water sample and check with someone who knows what they are talking about. Every area has different water conditions and issues. There is even a difference between water sources in the same area.

                              Generally some of the granular chemicals don't like acidic water which is what most water conditioners do. So dyodd.

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                                #45
                                Say you are applying fungi on wheat at heading. Fungicide $20, airplane $12, wheat $10/bus. Need 3.2 bushels to break even. Now lets say you have a year it does nothing. Now you need 6.4 bushels the following year to break even. Not hard to get upside down on ROI of fungicides imo. Do most guys even leave check strips?

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