Was seeding into a half of canola stubble this one time and was having constant plugged runs. Was too mucky, but I wanted to punch it in so I could change over to canola on lentil stubble. So I made the decision to split my seed rate between the fert shank and the seed shank on the hawk. I was a little concerned there might be some seed burn on the fert shank getting 130lbs of actual N in the liquid 28 streamed on it, but gave it a try. I could see no visible injury or reduced emergence in the fert shank row. That durum ended being the highest yielding durum ive ever grown, over 30000 bushels net off those 300 seedable acres. Would I try that with granular urea nope, i know better than that.
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I have also seen this with high rates of dry with a seed master
The only canola not dead was the one strip from a plugged fert run on air drill
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A lot of things work with high crop prices and generous profit margins such as some areas have enjoyed the past few years.
When commodity prices return to the COP, and margins are paper thin at best, will it still work to spend extra on N to account for losses, pay for stabilizers, cost of application, potentially sacrifice yield due to less than ideal placement or timing?
I look at it as we only get one chance to grow a crop in a short season, there is no option of starting over, and rarely enough season left for fixing mistakes at this latitude.
I won't trade convenience, speed and easy for giving the crop the best potential for the lowest cost possible.
Of course, in this area, my later seeded nearly always beats the early seeded, for various reasons. We aren't at risk of running out of water, or getting too hot, just risking fighting with snow and frost in the fall, so my perspective may not be much use in your area.
Back to your original question about two carts, do you ever fight with too wet conditions during seeding?
We nearly always do, which is why I use a tow between, with weight on the tractor drawbar, and really easy to disconnect from the drill and get unstuck, as opposed to the dead weight of tow behind, and the compaction from the wheel tracks. Often just back up and jackknife, exit at a new angle, without even unhooking. It looks to me that getting two cart set up unstuck would become a much bigger headache. But that might just be a here thing.
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40 N on now , 80 N at seeding time
Keeps our drill going at max fills in spring
If conditions are excellent after weed control, and sufficient rains / moisture, can always foliar to target big yields . If not , thats what it gets . Unless tissue samples show otherwise
Can do about 2000 ac on a tank of fuel on the ole 9270Last edited by furrowtickler; Oct 19, 2023, 20:04.
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Originally posted by AlbertaFarmer5 View PostA lot of things work with high crop prices and generous profit margins such as some areas have enjoyed the past few years.
When commodity prices return to the COP, and margins are paper thin at best, will it still work to spend extra on N to account for losses, pay for stabilizers, cost of application, potentially sacrifice yield due to less than ideal placement or timing?
I look at it as we only get one chance to grow a crop in a short season, there is no option of starting over, and rarely enough season left for fixing mistakes at this latitude.
I won't trade convenience, speed and easy for giving the crop the best potential for the lowest cost possible.
Of course, in this area, my later seeded nearly always beats the early seeded, for various reasons. We aren't at risk of running out of water, or getting too hot, just risking fighting with snow and frost in the fall, so my perspective may not be much use in your area.
Back to your original question about two carts, do you ever fight with too wet conditions during seeding?
We nearly always do, which is why I use a tow between, with weight on the tractor drawbar, and really easy to disconnect from the drill and get unstuck, as opposed to the dead weight of tow behind, and the compaction from the wheel tracks. Often just back up and jackknife, exit at a new angle, without even unhooking. It looks to me that getting two cart set up unstuck would become a much bigger headache. But that might just be a here thing.
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Like I said just an option or two that may work for your farm in your area .
There are 101 ways to get er done
We have taken many ideas from others over the years and made our own system.
May not be viable for you , but maybe part of it .
Best of luck , lots of variables in farming
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Originally posted by furrowtickler View PostLike I said just an option or two that may work for your farm in your area .
There are 101 ways to get er done
We have taken many ideas from others over the years and made our own system.
May not be viable for you , but maybe part of it .
Best of luck , lots of variables in farming
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