Need help with contract.

[goalieguy847]

Also, in having some great discussions with cgc and grainscanada/ barley commission.. the test that the elevators use to check all of your falling numbers is not a repeatable test, which is why the grain commission did NOT adopt it. There is only 1 way to do a repeatable scientific accurate falling number test and it isnt.whats done at the elevator
If you were to do 10 different falling number tests on the exact same load sample of your grain you will get 10 different falling numbers. If you have any low falling number grain they take issue with you ABSOLUTELY request a resample of the load and another falling number test.

[biglentil]

Did you keep samples and if so did you do a germ test?

[fjlip]

I am hearing from our local elevators that most samples that were borderline are now getting poorer germ and not making malt. Translation “maybe the price in down since you signed the contract”

We had both elevators do 4 barley samples, after harvest and a month later. Each sample is MORE chitted. All tests were higher at Viterra. Malteurope had 9% chit where these two were 20-40% chit. Germ was 99% on all of them. Samples sat in heated shop in sample bags in covered pails. It's a shit show.

[goalieguy847]

Did you keep samples and if so did you do a germ test?

Jesus h.

Does anyone read?

The samples still came back with great GERM even after the comp from the bin at elevator.
All specs were good but chit went from combined 3% on all my scale tickets and a malt grade to almost 20 % chit and feed grade.


When in doubt, read about.

[wmoebis]

Jesus h.

Does anyone read?

The samples still came back with great GERM even after the comp from the bin at elevator.
All specs were good but chit went from combined 3% on all my scale tickets and a malt grade to almost 20 % chit and feed grade.


When in doubt, read about.

Did you have a look at the pealed sample to see what you assessed the chit at? I wonder if it was the same guy assessing both time or if both knew proper procedures for assessment.

[LEP]

Jesus h.

Does anyone read?

The samples still came back with great GERM even after the comp from the bin at elevator.
All specs were good but chit went from combined 3% on all my scale tickets and a malt grade to almost 20 % chit and feed grade.


When in doubt, read about.

How much rain during late august early sept? Barley goes through a sweat after it is in the bin so it does affect quality somewhat.

That is why companies scramble to tie up mt at harvest and get check samples later on.

They want the farmer to have the storage risk as long as possible.

[blackpowder]

Malt is a specialty crop that is grossly over supplied.

[biglentil]

Jesus h.

Does anyone read?

The samples still came back with great GERM even after the comp from the bin at elevator.
All specs were good but chit went from combined 3% on all my scale tickets and a malt grade to almost 20 % chit and feed grade.


When in doubt, read about.

You are the one here posting for help. Sounds like you have it all figured out, so man up and handle it.

[Grahamp]

The year was 1986, I was 7 in Iron Springs, Alberta and a neighbour complained that he was getting ripped off on his malt grade. He left and my Grandfather looked at me and gave me the best piece of advice that ever passed from Grandfather to Grandson, He said “Graham that was a malt barely grower, In all my 75 years I’ve never met a happy one.”

[LEP]

Alright all you fellow agrivillers.
Anyone had issue with grain contracts recently?
Had some grain go in.. have all grades on delivery tickets. Company called me back after 3 weeks ( due to final germ check) and told me grain had gone WILDLY out of spec despite not shutting me down hauling ( which i would have been had 1 load been so far out of spec)
Will be a 30 k hit to me.
Anyone know or have used any grain contract lawyers or have direct experience with this? Situation is Very straight forward and im not in the wrong.

So here is a question. If they shut you down what would you have done? Do you have some better quality grain left?

If your quality didn't meet specs you would still have to buyout the malt contract.