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[TOM4CWB]

RationAL;

All the best then, obviously I have missed the mark in the minds of many.

Change is hard I know... the narrow road of respect for my neighbour... and trust of the individual farmers' decisions... made individually... I cannot reconcile with your above statements.

I cannot agree that you know what is best for my farm... you don't know what my farm, family, and community; really what we need.

We can agree to disagree... all the best!

[wd9]

And that my faithful readers is why farmers will forever struggle. Our greatest competitor is ourselves.

[TOM4CWB]

WD9;

We cannot stop... working to make our Communities better!

Too many good people have given their lives... in war time and in peace... to roll over and quit. THey fought for these principals;

The Golden Rule;

Do unto others as you would have done unto you,

And the Negative Golden Rule;

Do not do unto others as you would not have others do unto you;


1. Do not infringe upon the Rights, Freedoms or Property of others, and
Keep all contracts willingly, knowingly and intentionally

2. That for every wrong there is a remedy,

3. The end does not justify the means,

4. Fundamental principals cannot be set aside to meet the demands of convenience or to prevent apparent hardship in a particular case,

4. Ignorance of the law is no excuse for breaking the law,

5. Two wrongs do not make a right, and

6. One can enlarge the rights of the people, however they cannot be taken away without their informed consent.

These are the simple Common Law principals which must be the base of all civilised societies... that must be respected for wealth and prosperity to be generated!

[Ration-Al]

Tom,

If you go back to the original post on this thread you will see the real meaning of the Golden Rule:

He who has the gold makes the rules!!!

[TOM4CWB]

RationAL;

Your attitude is a disgrace to the folks who died for our freedom during the wars... gave their lives to build western Canada... and to those who are working to create wealth for our communities!

Fear and deception will not stop us from solving the problems we have now.

In my estimation... CWB fear mongering is at the base of the mistrust in our grain economy... for every player in our Industry!


Take a look at Malt barley prices the CWB offered on Oct 29, 04. $2.40/bu... and if your barley gets rejected after being selected... the CWB will let you switch to a feed barley contract... minimum 50lb/bu... @ $1.22/bu.

What a deal RationAL!

Hope you can become part of the solution soon... it would be really appreciated!

[tower]

Have you noticed that when people are so committed to an arguments resolution that sometimes they see everything in the light of the argument and don't notice when additional factors are referenced?

If you step back and try to see where the money is going, you might get a different perspective.

[TOM4CWB]

Tower;

What do you mean, step back and see where the money is going? Can you be clearer please?

[tower]

During the watergate crisis in the states during the early 70's there were reporters trying to find out who got paid for what during the dirty tricks of the election of the president.

There had been a pretty good cover-up in place and the reporters were stymied. Someone at that time used the expression "Follow the Money" as a direction for reporters on the case. If you go to Timms original post, and if Timm is still with us perhaps he could let us know where he came up with that, and how it ends, you will see why market strength could be influenced by perhaps 3 or 4 very wealthy companies to the detriment of farmers, despite the best efforts of the CWB.

I'm not convinced that we are seeing their best efforts, but I've never seen any indication that the board does better if our grain prices are lower.

[TOM4CWB]

Tower;

Your last statement that the CWB does not benefit from lower prices... is of course true.

The CWB is us, obviously.

We MUST create more wealth for CWB crops, by risk management that expediently cushions the lows of the market place, while allowing our consuming customer the option to benefit from low prices.

This is the whole point of risk management.

Somewhat like buying fertiliser for our farms. We strive to purchase our supplies at the lowest possible price. THis is of course not in the interests of our suppliers, but it is nessasary to maximise consumption (which lower prices increase) our suppliers can risk manage the cost of supplies, stabilise prices, and still make a good profit.

Farmers are the suppliers of CWB grain. We have a opportunity to benefit from risk management, which can allow a much higher than average price... if we have a plan to benefit from risk management opportunities.

Pooling gives us the average. We cannot prosper on the average price.

All I am saying is we can do much better as a group, IF we have the self discipline to use risk managemet opportunities.

That we have not benefited is mostly our own fault. MOST Farmers have not instructed the CWB to risk manage, and the CWB sales dept will not change unless instructed with a clear plan to change from traditional sales habits.

Banks make a profit because they understand risk management. Farmers MUST share risk to become profitable, long term.

[tower]

If the whole point of Risk management is to create more wealth for CWB crops while allowing our customers the option of benefitting from low prices would you define what you think risk management is?

I'm also not sure who you mean by we when you say we cannot prosper with an average price. If we are doing this as a group, who is going to do better than the average price?