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    #11
    Agstar;

    It is interesting to see what Goodale did. Why did I say he did it for grain companies/CDN, industrial complex?

    Farmers were selling wheat and barley to CWB Agents, and that grain had over 3X more value than the farmers were being paid in either the non-board domestic market; or by the CWB.

    The grain that was worth $4.00/bu was being bought for just over a dollar/bu.

    Now, who properly has the right to the difference to $4/bu, the farmer or the CWB/grain companies?

    The farmer of course... who produced the grain with the extra intrinsic value... and has the first right in law to this intrinsic value.

    What do CWB's own ethical guidelines have this to say about the individual farmers own property?

    The Golden Rule, which states;
    1. Do unto others as you would have done unto you,
    And the Negative Golden Rule, which states;
    2. Do not do unto others as you would not have others do unto you;


    a)Do not infringe upon the Rights, Freedoms or Property of others, and
    Keep all contracts willingly, knowingly and intentionally

    b)That for every wrong there is a remedy,

    c)The end does not justify the means,

    d)Fundamental principals cannot be set aside to meet the demands of convenience or to prevent apparent hardship in a particular case,

    e)Ignorance of the law is no excuse for breaking the law,

    f)Two wrongs do not make a right, and

    g)One can enlarge the rights of the people, however they cannot be taken away without their informed consent.


    Ralph Goodale forced the CWB to break virtually every one of these principals, and the CWB has been almost destroyed because of the greed of Goodale.

    Chairman Ritter has not had the common sense or backbone to correct these problems, nor have the other left wing greedy, misinformed, lazy management and directors.

    A farmer who now are being charged $45/t (wheat) or $30/t (barley) buy-back today is being robbed by Goodale and those misguided souls who follow Goodale's greedy tactics.

    The whole feed/ethanol feedstock complex is being devalued, every single product being fed or used domestically today.

    TODAY How exactly does misguided CWB management prevent "market concentration" when multi-nationals are the biggest benificiaries to the unfortunate "designated area" farmers' loss and economic destruction?

    Please explain this to me!

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      #12
      Tom your good wife was right.
      I guess to be a good politician you have to have the ability to take a simple question and give a long winded
      answer.You are a good politician Tom.

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        #13
        Les;

        You asked;
        "...are you in favor of dual marketing system or a single desk marketing system?"

        What would you say I am in favor of, after looking at my long winded explanation?

        How exactly do I explain my position...

        It is not a "dual market" open competition, no holes barred position... but a limited exemption position that respects co-operative marketing principals... with an element of respect for individual property rights.

        How do I say what I mean... in fewer words... yet not be misunderstood!

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          #14
          Tom... When I think of dual marketing system I think of a system where I dont have to beg (or even ask for that matter) the CWB to let me sell my wheat or barley any where anytime I want to.Are you in favor of this?

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            #15
            Les;

            Obviously I have not being paying attention, and made this way too complex.

            I am the guy, that will work to get you an export license, at no-cost.

            I am the guy that wants you to have the same opportunity as an Ontario wheat farmer is given today.

            I am the guy that believes the CWB will become much more accountable and efficient, if it grants you your no cost export license.

            If this makes me a “dual marketer” in your mind, I am a dual marketer.

            I strongly believe you have the right to a no-cost export license, just like you have the right to ship a producer car through the Canada Grain Act, and go direct to your market using this producer car tool.

            As your director, a no-cost export license is the tool I will be able to use to give a measure of freedom under the constraints of the CWB Act, as written today.

            The same marketing choices as other Canadian farmers have, that live outside the "CWB designated area".

            Vision;

            As your CWB District 4 director, Long term perspective. I will strive to create a CWB marketing service provider that can stand with us as grain growers, and provide world class top notch efficient marketing services.

            Then, I will work for you to have the choice and opportunity to sell to any buyer, including the new improved CWB, under a new CWB Act.

            Hope this helps.

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              #16
              So Tom, basically you want to have your own grain company to export or sell grain. Gee we used to have that, it was called MPE or SWP or AWP . You know what happened to them. Two were taken over because the directors were duped and the other is basically bankrupt. You really have re-invented the wheel.

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                #17
                Agstar77;

                Prosperity is an interesting topic, what is it exactly?

                "I know there is nothing better for men than to be happy and do good while they live. That everyone may eat and drink, and find satifaction in all his toil... this is the gift of God."{Eccle. 3:12-13}

                Agstar77;

                If I am elected as a CWB Director, I have a responsibility to the Corporation to do my best to create innovative marketing services, that reflect the needs of our farmers and there communities in this new Millenium.

                The measure of freedom that can be allowed under the present CWB Act is limited granted... but just like producer cars to the elevator system today... no-cost buy-back exempt export licenses are a needed step to balance our western Canadian system and make it more effective and efficient.

                Being involved in the pulse industry for over a decade, I have witnessed first hand the innovative productivity/prosperity our farms, seed plants, and communities have acheived.

                It has been nothing short of a miracle.

                Now we need to create the best innovative CWB marketing system, that complements our pulse industry, canola industry, and value added processors.

                You know we can do much much better!

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                  #18
                  Les, "no-buy-back licences" are what Eastern farmers have always enjoyed and continue to enjoy. Ontarians don't do buybacks!

                  Western farmers could immediately enjoy the same " marketing choice" IF CWB directors would vote at the next Directors' meeting to grant licenses to Western farmers. No going to Ottawa to change the Act. No tinkering with legislation. Just a policy change at the Board table. It can happen like this and both of them know it:

                  Moved by Rod Flaman and seconded by Ian McCreary that every Western farmer wanting to market his own grain who is applying for an export or interprovincial license will be granted one. Carried.

                  Done!

                  The CWC staff would follow orders.

                  And dual marketing for farmers would be accomplished.

                  Parsley

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                    #19
                    SO, I take it you would be amenable to the CWB getting into the grain handling system to keep the Multinationals honest? After all, at the rate of rationaliation, there are only be 2 or 3 choices for grain delivery. For the CWB to maximize returns to farmers it may have take delivery directly with on farm sourcing of cleaned and graded grain. You would only need a loading and blendig facility.

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                      #20
                      Parsley I agree.If farmers cant get a fair dual market we will be pushing even harder to can the CWB.

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