What happened in Wainwright last night, Tom?

[TOM4CWB]

Les;

You asked;
"...are you in favor of dual marketing system or a single desk marketing system?"

What would you say I am in favor of, after looking at my long winded explanation?

How exactly do I explain my position...

It is not a "dual market" open competition, no holes barred position... but a limited exemption position that respects co-operative marketing principals... with an element of respect for individual property rights.

How do I say what I mean... in fewer words... yet not be misunderstood!

[les]

Tom... When I think of dual marketing system I think of a system where I dont have to beg (or even ask for that matter) the CWB to let me sell my wheat or barley any where anytime I want to.Are you in favor of this?

[TOM4CWB]

Les;

Obviously I have not being paying attention, and made this way too complex.

I am the guy, that will work to get you an export license, at no-cost.

I am the guy that wants you to have the same opportunity as an Ontario wheat farmer is given today.

I am the guy that believes the CWB will become much more accountable and efficient, if it grants you your no cost export license.

If this makes me a “dual marketer” in your mind, I am a dual marketer.

I strongly believe you have the right to a no-cost export license, just like you have the right to ship a producer car through the Canada Grain Act, and go direct to your market using this producer car tool.

As your director, a no-cost export license is the tool I will be able to use to give a measure of freedom under the constraints of the CWB Act, as written today.

The same marketing choices as other Canadian farmers have, that live outside the "CWB designated area".

Vision;

As your CWB District 4 director, Long term perspective. I will strive to create a CWB marketing service provider that can stand with us as grain growers, and provide world class top notch efficient marketing services.

Then, I will work for you to have the choice and opportunity to sell to any buyer, including the new improved CWB, under a new CWB Act.

Hope this helps.

[agstar77]

So Tom, basically you want to have your own grain company to export or sell grain. Gee we used to have that, it was called MPE or SWP or AWP . You know what happened to them. Two were taken over because the directors were duped and the other is basically bankrupt. You really have re-invented the wheel.

[TOM4CWB]

Agstar77;

Prosperity is an interesting topic, what is it exactly?

"I know there is nothing better for men than to be happy and do good while they live. That everyone may eat and drink, and find satifaction in all his toil... this is the gift of God."{Eccle. 3:12-13}

Agstar77;

If I am elected as a CWB Director, I have a responsibility to the Corporation to do my best to create innovative marketing services, that reflect the needs of our farmers and there communities in this new Millenium.

The measure of freedom that can be allowed under the present CWB Act is limited granted... but just like producer cars to the elevator system today... no-cost buy-back exempt export licenses are a needed step to balance our western Canadian system and make it more effective and efficient.

Being involved in the pulse industry for over a decade, I have witnessed first hand the innovative productivity/prosperity our farms, seed plants, and communities have acheived.

It has been nothing short of a miracle.

Now we need to create the best innovative CWB marketing system, that complements our pulse industry, canola industry, and value added processors.

You know we can do much much better!

[parsley]

Les, "no-buy-back licences" are what Eastern farmers have always enjoyed and continue to enjoy. Ontarians don't do buybacks!

Western farmers could immediately enjoy the same " marketing choice" IF CWB directors would vote at the next Directors' meeting to grant licenses to Western farmers. No going to Ottawa to change the Act. No tinkering with legislation. Just a policy change at the Board table. It can happen like this and both of them know it:

Moved by Rod Flaman and seconded by Ian McCreary that every Western farmer wanting to market his own grain who is applying for an export or interprovincial license will be granted one. Carried.

Done!

The CWC staff would follow orders.

And dual marketing for farmers would be accomplished.

Parsley

[agstar77]

SO, I take it you would be amenable to the CWB getting into the grain handling system to keep the Multinationals honest? After all, at the rate of rationaliation, there are only be 2 or 3 choices for grain delivery. For the CWB to maximize returns to farmers it may have take delivery directly with on farm sourcing of cleaned and graded grain. You would only need a loading and blendig facility.

[les]

Parsley I agree.If farmers cant get a fair dual market we will be pushing even harder to can the CWB.

[TOM4CWB]

Agstar77:

This can be easily done. Samples of each load are retained now. Those samples can be retained and used to insure the exact intrinsic quality and properties are delivered to the shipment as was delivered by the farmer.

We are doing this directly now with the CWB on IP Special CWB programs. The CWB has samples from our farm long before delivery to an elevator... for complete analysis.

If the CWB owns specific grain, they are entitled to that exact grain, no questions asked.

[les]

Why do we need a License to sell our own grain??I dont need a licence to sell my cows or oats or canola or hay or do I need to go on?

[parsley]

Les, unfortunately, its the law of the land. The CWB Act requires ALL exporters to have a licence. It was put in in 1947. The government had a long term agreement to supply wheat to Britain after the war so they wanted to ensure they could get their hands on wheat at a price they would set, and independent of world market prices. The CWB lawyer developed a scheme. Basically, all exporters (and importers then) were required to have a licence that amounted to an export import tax (with the tax proceeds to go to the government). Thus the government was assured of wheat at "their" price. For example: They set the price in 1947 at $1.55/bus. If the world price went to $3.55, any exporter had to pay the difference to the government which would be $2.00. Basically it taxed away any incentive to export but did not prohibit exports.

However now the government no longer sets the price of wheat which is set by world market prices. There is no export tax to be paid and therefore all licences are at no cost but the legislation is still in effect and there fore all exporters must have a licence.

However, the CWB now uses this ancient taxing legislation to enforce a monopoly. Its very simple: they allow eastern grain out of the monopoly by granting the licences, and hold prairie farmers in a monopoly by denying licences. The Act does not mandate a monopoly on prairie farmers, its just done by the policy of the bureaucrats at Winnipeg and it is absolutely outrageous. Rod Flaman described it a a "hoax" untill his CWB greenback conversion, and no doubt a number of other individuals at the CWB also know they are perpetuating a fraud.

Incidently, any profits from the export/import taxing of the national licencing Part IV of the Act were to go to the government and the expenses (or losses in Part IV) were to be paid by the government. Now there are only expenses in Part IV (licencing) but the CWB, while claiming to be acting in the interests of prairie farmers charge us for what the Act states must be paid for by the government.

So that is why you must have a licence which you actually can't get yet must pay for the free licences of those who can get them.

Parliament came up with the notion to license your guns, too, Les.

Parsley