Bio diesel plant for ND

[Vader]

You know what Parsley, some of what you say may be true but I would put almost all of it in the category of "ancient history", a topic which you relish as it suits your search and destroy mission.

[parsley]

I hope you don't mind Vader, but I will reply in a new thread so I don't thwart the intent of this thread.

Parsley

[wd9]

Yes, I have heard that to, and it is true. I have no idea how this will look posted, but this is a list I have based on late 02 data. Again kinda long, but oh well.

Caterpillar Caterpillar neither approves nor prohibits the use of biodiesel fuels. Caterpillar is not in a position to evaluate the many variations of biodiesel fuels, and the long-term effects on performance, durability or emissions compliance of caterpillar products. The use of biodiesel fuel does not affect Caterpillar’s materials and workmanship warranty. Failures resulting from the use of the fuel are not caterpillar factory defects and therefore the cost of repair would not be covered by the caterpillar warranty.Some caterpillar engines are limited to 5% biodiesel blends.
Cummins Cummins neither approves or disapproves of the use of biodiesel fuel. Cummins is not in a position to evaluate the many variations of biodiesel fuels or additives, and their long-term effects on performance, durability or emissions compliance of Cummins products. The use of biodiesel fuel does not affect Cummins Material and Workmanship warranty. Failures caused by the use of biodiesel fuels or other fuel additives are not defects of workmanship and/or material as supplied by Cummins, Inc and can not be compensated under Cummins warranty.
Detroit Diesel Biodiesel fuels may be produced from a wide variety of sources and maybe used in all DDC engines provided they are derived from soy methyl ester (SME) and **** methyl ester (RME) and are blended to a maximum of 20% by volume in diesel fuel. The resulting blend must meet DDC specified fuel properties.These blends have not been fully evaluated relative to diesel fuel system durability or engine oil effects.
International International Engine Corporation neither approves nor disapproves any product not manufactured or sold by International. The use of products such as biodiesel is at the discretion of the end-user. Any engine performance problem or failure attributed to biodiesel would not be recognized as the responsibility of International Engine Corporation.International’s engine warranty covers defects caused by material or workmanship. The International engine warranty, workmanship and material is not affected simply by the use of biodiesel regardless of the product’s origin. Fuel is not warranted by International under any condition.
John Deere John Deere has approved the use of up to 5% concentration soy-based Biodiesel fuel in its PowerTech® diesel engines.Biodiesel fuels may be used in John Deere diesel engines only if the fuel meets the provisional ASTM PS121 (U.S.) or DIN 51606 (German) specifications. NOTE: Raw pressed vegetable oils are NOT acceptable for use for fuel in any concentration. These oils do not burn completely, and will cause engine failure by leaving deposits on injectors and in the combustion chamber.



Manufacturer Model Warranty Conditions
Cars
BMW 525 Full approval
Renault } Peugeot} Citroen } All Models 5% RME- is not distinguished at the pump in France and does not affect warranty
Volkswagen Golf Ecomatic Full approval
Volkswagen All other models 15% RME mixture approved
Trucks
Mercedes Benz Truck Engines Use MB specification for RME
Volvo Truck Engines No approval-pending fixed quality standard. If RME is used halve oil drain intervals
Tractors
Fiatagri All new tractors No alteration
Ford All new tractors 2 year engine warranty
John Deere All tractors since 1967 2 year warranty
Duetz Fahr All tractors with 912/913 engines 1 year warranty
Linde All tractors since 1985 1 year warranty
Massey Ferguson All tractors since 1985 1 year / 800 hour warranty
Mercedes Benz All tractors 1 year warranty
Same All tractors since 1980 4 year 13000 hour warranty
Case All new tractors No alteration
Lamborghini All new tractors No alteration
Landini All new tractors 1 year warranty
Fendt All new tractors With RME package
Renault All new tractors With RME package
Steyr All tractors since 1947 With RME package
Zetor All new tractors With RME package

[wd9]

Ontario is the only province so far with a cut for biodiesel. At 14.3 cents per litre the numbers look Ok for development in Ontario.

Internationally:

Austria 43 cents Can/litre Only for 100% biodiesel
France 58 cents Can/litre Capped at 235 million litres/year
Germany 57 cents Can/litre Only for 100% biodiesel
Italy 57 cents Can/litre Capped at 125,000 tonnes per year. Used in heating oil not road diesel.
Sweden 54 cents Can/litre Capped at 30 million litres/year

[wd9]

Everest, your answers are:

1) at this point there is no national mandate for biofuels in either Canada or the US. Canada has given national relief from the 4% Tax on road fuels on the biodiesel portion of petroleum diesel blends but no mandate. The US under the EPAct (Energy Policy Act) requires a % of vehicles in all fleets to be alternative fuel compliant and under the recent Energy Bill gives incentives of $0.01 per gal per % for biodiesel.

2) Most tax incentives at the state level are tax relief on the alternative fuel that replaces petroleum products in whole or in part for use in the alternative fuel vehicles required by the EPAct. There are also state production incentives for the establishment of production facilities but these have been difficult to quantify as they go well beyond alternative fuels and can be based on creating new employment, new business opportunities, etc, etc. which are different in each state. In short, similar tactics to what provinces like Ont. and BC are doing, but more $$.

3) In Minnesota mandate will not come into effect until production in the state can supply the mandated volume, incentive already exist for production of biodiesel, and further incentives for new production of biodiesel. Many of the other states that have a mandate have it only for use in fleet or govt owned vehicles for compliance with the EPAct. The N. Dakota tax incentive also will not come into effect until the plant is built. States that currently have incentive are Idaho,Illinois, Iowa, Hawaii, Massachusetts, Arizona, Ohio, Montana, and Texas.

[ward.toma]

Couple of points: To the best of my knowledge there are 2 subsidy points in the US. One for the grower to encourage production through the target price, and at the blender. I think it's $1/gal blended. It's intention is to offset the increased cost of the feedstock so the product can compete.

As to the CWB issue: There was a vote by western Canadian farmers to decide if canola would be under the CWB or on the open market. Farmers choose the open market.

Ward Toma, General Manager ACPC