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[Incognito]

the right side argument:

http://aic.ucdavis.edu/oa/stecwb.pdf


the left side argument:

http://www.nfu.ca/c-4.htm

no side facts:

http://www.agtradepolicy.org/output/resource/STE2.pdf


Familiarize yourself with the 3 reports because in 3 weeks, the timeline for change is fast approaching. Government, farmers and the CWB has had their chance to change and chose not to. And for all the fighting that has gone in this forum and in this country over the last 30 years, the net result will be some bureaucrat trading away your right to choose for the betterment of the country.

And you can send Mr. Hill back to Geneva, Vader but you might as well save the pooling costs. With a 23% voter turnout in the last CWB election, the die was cast then.

Isn't it Ironic, Don't ya think. Its like a free ride, when you've already paid - Alanis Morrisette

[agstar77]

You still don't get it. The marketing debate is just a red herring. The real problem is a lack of committment by society in agriculture. Society wants cheap high quality food no matter who produces it. Marketing won't stop the increase in input costs or the demise of independent farm operations. Agribusiness, including banks , agri-food corporations and chemical companies will soon manage agriculture with us as employees. Maybe this will be a good thing as individuals cannot take on the enormous risks in farming.

[Incognito]

Wrong.

Corps have no interest owning dirt. Not ADM, not SWP and not the banks.

[Vader]

Corps don't have to own the dirt. Just look at Tysons. The owners of chicken farms in the states have become "chicken farm janitors".

I agree with Agstar, but not so sure that being an employee will be any improvement over what we have today.

[agstar77]

We have basically sold our farms to the banks and suppliers because of the high costs of inputs, all that is left is the paperwork. Owning the dirt is not a big deal anymore,just a liability.

[Incognito]

Vader:

using the chicken farmer theory and Tyson's...what differences do w. Canadian wheat farmers have if they grow 1 CWRS 13.5?

Agstar:

How much cash do you think you leave on the table every year because of poor marketing? Are you in the top 50 percentile of sales...top 75%...top 95%?

Worry about things you can change. If you are worrying about things you can't, what are you doing to TRY and change it?

[TOM4CWB]

Incognito;

Constructive change is a long hard road of hard fought battles down at the CWB.

If I had the power the CWB has... it would be tempting for me to ignore all the warning signs of impending distruction...

As the CWB has does to the largest extent.

COmplaining about Tyson and ADM is a smoke screen for those too lazy to do their job... and the sign of a guilty concience.

Hope to talk to you on Thrs in Camrose thanks and kudos to you for doing the tour!

[Vader]

The difference between Tyson and the CWB is that Tyson has become rich on the backs of the chicken farmers. The CWB returns all sales revenues minus expenses (approx. 10 cents per bushel) to the farmers.

[TOM4CWB]

Vader,

The likes of Chairman Ritter, Rod Flaman, Adrian Measner... the list goes on and on... 600 plus people... plus vehicles... and on and on...

All these folks make and net more than the average grain farmer does... by far!

The interest in preserving the CWB has a strong self interest... for those mentioned above milking grain farmers down at the CWB... you must admit!

How is this any different than Tysons or ADM?

[Vader]

Tom, what a ridiculous argument. I suppose that you would want CWB employees to be underpaid and dissatisfied with their jobs. Then they would most certainly not want the CWB to continue to exist, and your wishes would come true.