cwb Advertising ?

[TOM4CWB]

Vader;

I note WD9 said; "Open market? yes or no"

I also note WD9 clearly identified that we are already in an open market, whether the CWB chooses to believe it or not!

Only now the CWB manages a small % of world trade in a couple of products... at the expense and against the wishes of the majority of those who actually produce these products on their farms.

Remember the 20/80 relationship where 20% of grain producers control 80% of the productive assets CWB products grow on...

C(onfiscating)
W(heat)
B(arley)... mother corp. markets.

"Single Desk" and "Monopoly" are directly interchangeable and one is no less or more offensive than the other!

CWB...

Please stop rubbing my face in this garbage, it offends many people who MUST do business with the "single desk monopoly"!

[wd9]

All I want to know is when my ballot is coming?

[Vader]

wd9

There is no ballot in the mail just now and as far as I am concerned you get to vote every four years. Up till now the voters have been very emphatic in their support of single desk candidates.

[TOM4CWB]

Vader;

Good Job... refuse to answer our questions... and insult us on top!

I seem to remember in District 5 that a local Choice Candidate won every round until "star" drop in won it on the last ballot!

True to Goodale plans... of election manipulation of results!

[wd9]

Vader come on, elect a board of directors to achieve an open market?

Corporate governance means the process and structure used to direct and manage the business and affairs of the corporation with the objective of enhancing shareholder value, which includes ensuring the financial viability of the business.

Why not just come clean and say that even if 100% of the farmers voted for open market that the board still due to governance, that the Federal Government is the primary stakeholder, and Corporate Law would not allow an open market? Litigation would ensue against the members attempting such an action.

Just like the Supreme Court said, The WCWB is only responsible to the Federal Government, the primary and only stakeholder.

I guess advertising would be important to protect the primary shareholder in this instance convincing the captive market (farmers) that the WCWB is in their best interest.

Guess my ballot isn't coming in the mail for sure is it?

[wedino]

Someone made a judgment call, Vader, well hoop de do, a judgment call. Instead of blaming the staff why wouldn't you announce, right here on this board, that at the next cwb board meeting you would see that this kind of blatant miss appropriation of producers final payment dollars is stopped. You are telling me the staff runs the cwb. Stop being a puppet, Vader, it's time the board of directors take over and start doing their job.

Yes I am a farmer, you are a cwb director are you not?

Not only does the cwb advertise in SARM's magazine, it is a gold sponsor for the conventions. What amount does a gold sponsor donate? $3,000.00? Sarm is quite able to finance its conventions on its own. Very simple, SARM needs more money, it's members simply increase the mill rate 1 or 2 mills. FYI, the RM I'm located in gets 75% of its tax dollars from commercial assessment. I feel very strongly that farmers final payment dollars shouldn't be used for the benefit of the oil patch.

As far as the advertising being worthwhile since farmers read it, Vader, it is not required. You've got me as a customer, you don't need to throw advertising my way, the chains and leg irons do it for me. Like I said before, make it voluntary and I won't care where or how you advertise.

[Vader]

wedino, I haven't seen the SARM advertising, so until I have I won't comment any further on whether it is appropriate or not. I do stand by me statement that it is a staff function. It is not the board of directors duty to scrutinize the content of individual advertising pieces. It may be part of an overall strategic direction through the farmer relations committee. I understand that you are opposed to any of your final payment dollars being spent in this way but then you are completely opposed to everything that the cwb does. The cwb must take a more balanced approach to how it conducts it business than to cease and decist at the very utterance of discontent from detractors such as yourself.

wd9, voters will never vote 100%. As it stands today 75% of voters are in support of keeping the cwb alive and well. We may argue about whether that means that a dual market can function but that does not change the desire of farmers to maintain the cwb.

If cwb detractors grow in numbers to the point that they can elect a majority of the directors they can have their way with the organization. All power to you. I guess this ties back to the advertising piece. If farmers lack knowledge they might in fact choose to get rid of the cwb. By keeping farmers informed we can make sure that they make wise decisions and vote in directors who can likewise make those wise decisions.

[charliep]

Just a question about where the 75 % came from. 2004 election results? Internal CWB polling? Outside polling? This would not reflect the numbers I have seen.

As a note, there is another view of the world. I encourage to review the Alberta's market choice pamphlets (current and previous).

http://www.choicematters.gov.ab.ca/

[silverback]

Charlie,
What would I learn that is " new " from that website or the pamphlets? I have said before I want choice, but nice pamphlets and websites just keep the status quo. Sorry if I am not that enthusiastic about the Alberta gov'ts talk on this subject anymore.

[charliep]

At the end of the day, it is not the silverbacks of the world the choice matters campaign is aimed. Nor are the hard core CWB supporters. The target is the individuals who are not committed to either side but rather are looking for information. The objective is too show there are many opportunities in a more open market and that the sun would indeed shine the next day if farmers had true choice with a CWB option. It is also to provide a vision for the future and where the Alberta government sees the industry in 5 to 10 years.