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    #25
    When will we have lost so many farmers that we no longer have the critical mass to survive?

    Are principles our best survival strategy at this time? Will principles matter when we are all gone?

    We had need a better plan than how to distribute ballots in CWB elections.

    Tom, we need to do much better if we are going to surive and it is going to require as much cooperation as we can muster.

    What price do we need to surive? What will it take to drive the price to where we need it to be?

    We have nearly a whole years supply of grain on the shelf. Perhaps we have earned a holiday?

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      #26
      Vader;

      Growing a good crop, feeding hungry people, this IS my holiday.

      When 1 Billion people go hungry each night...

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        #27
        You sometimes have to sit back and ask yourself, "Why does Paul Martin want to be the PM?" Why would a billionaire need to put himself through the stress that he does? He doesn't really need the job, and he certainly doesn't seem to have a real vision for this country, so why does he think he needs to be the PM? What is really going on behind the scenes that he feels he needs to be in charge of?

        Sorry, just some insomnia thoughts.

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          #28
          Paul Martin is the front man for Power Corp. Consider where his millions came from? The often told story is he worked for Power Corp. then they sold him this bankrupt steamship line, turned around and pushed all their business his way and voila...he becomes an instant success! Now why would they do that?
          Next Paul goes into politics?
          I wonder whose interests he will be serving?
          Paul Desmarais, owner of Power Corp., became a financial powerhouse by politics? He buys and sells politicians whenever he wants. With Martin he bought his own primeminister.

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            #29
            ...it is the old boy club at their best and it looks like he(martin) is going to try everything in the book to keep that way...the tax dollars are a flowing...

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              #30
              I am REALLY tired of the feeding hungry people bullshit.

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                #31
                T4, even if it was 30 million total acres, the average largish farm size of 5000 acres is still very very small as a percentage. Principal or not, the reality is it is insignificant and not worth the expense to administer.

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                  #32
                  We must start somewhere.

                  THE AUSIES have made a start... it is time we recoginsed the same principals.

                  I would like to take this opportunity to:

                  Thank all for allowing a great discussion!

                  Peace be with you and yours!

                  Merry CHistmas!

                  God Bless you and yours... all the best for 2006 and beyond!

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                    #33
                    Here's another curve ball for the discussion. What about the irrigation farmers in southern Alberta - the ones that grow twice as much wheat or barley per acre as most dryland producers? Considering them, should the number of votes be based on acres or production? What about the argument that a producer who hasn't sold anything to the CWB in the last two years but but did four years ago and will likely do so again in 2006 because of changes in croppings plans?

                    Incidently, I heard a large landowner saying that votes in municipal elections should be on the basis number of acres owned or dollars of taxes paid not one vote for each land owner. After I heard that it's obvious that the one-vote-per-person idea has detractors at the municipal level, too.

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                      #34
                      Lee;

                      Municipal assesment could be used, I understand it has a productivity factor included in it.

                      Municipal government is a different situation normanlly than the CWB...

                      The CWB -claims- to be a "commercial" company... therefore it should walk the talk and be governed in a "commercial" manner.

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                        #35
                        Egotism! Brian Mulroney said it is the ultimate board of directors. It has nothing to do with the obvious rewards (political salary). Its the manipulation of events, that somehow financaly rewards friends, that remarkably pay off later or are forever hidden from view.

                        Martin is also motivated (and desperate)to KEEP hidden from scrutiny other areas of the Adscam issue that were NOT part of the Gomery scope of investigation or guidelines, as set out by Martin himself!!!

                        Damage control!!!

                        Any one hear of the Adsam-Martin-Ernscliff connection???

                        You would if you subscribed to the Western Standard

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                          #36
                          Tom,

                          For future reference. Your 1 billion people going to bed hungry everyday has absolutely nothing to do with the discussion. There are issues above and beyond what is discussed here that have to do with world hunger. Agriculture in North America is the tip of the iceburg.

                          But, I guess you can go ahead and chase your little fantasy of you and Monsanto saving the world by feeding the starving masses.

                          I do, however, suggest that you take off your blinders and open you mind a little. Expand your horizons beyond modeling your each and every agri-idea towards a corporate structure and corporate ideology.

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