conservative victory & the CWB

[Jman]

The conservatives say they will unilaterally make CWB voluntary, effectively doing away with it .
Shouldnt this done thru normal CWB elections, or at least,a plebicite.
If the CWB goes, shouldnt supply mgnt also go. Perhaps this will give grain farmers a chance to add value to their grain by feeding it to layers, broilers, trukeys, dairy cattle,etc. Why should grain farmers not have the FREEDOM OF CHOICE to produce these commodities, after all, we already own the land and produce the feedstocks.

[agstar77]

It's not the conservative/reform/alliance way to give people choice unless it suits their purpose. They have decided what is best for us poor downtrodden grain farmers since they believe they already have our votes.

[Incognito]

QUOTE FROM THE CWB WEBSITE
At first, deliveries to the CWB were voluntary, and it handled only wheat. Then, during World War II, the CWB was empowered to market all Canadian grains, including oilseeds and Ontario corn. Wheat futures trading was suspended in 1943 in the conditions of wartime and deliveries to the CWB became compulsory.

In 1949, Parliament amended the Canadian Wheat Board Act to extend the CWB's marketing responsibility to encompass oats and barley, but retained a clause that required the Act's renewal by Parliament every five years. In 1966, this clause was removed and the Canadian Wheat Board Act became permanent legislation. In 1974, inter-provincial sales of wheat, oats and barley for use in animal feeds within Canada were removed from the sole authority of the CWB. In 1989, the marketing of oats was also removed from the authority of the Board, leaving it responsible only for the marketing of wheat and barley both for export and for human consumption domestically.

UNQUOTE


Governments of the day:
1943 - LIBERAL - PRIME MINISTER KING
1949 - LIBERAL - PM ST. LAURENT
1966 - LIBERAL - PM PEARSON
1974 - LIBERAL - PM TRUDEAU
1989 - CONSERVATIVE - PM MULRONEY

Where in 1943,1949,1966,1974 and 1989 did any farmer to get to vote on the future of their industry?

Why would you think farmers should get to vote on it today? There is precedence galore above.


1943, in the conditions of wartime and deliveries to the CWB became compulsory
(Who decided?)
1943 - LIBERAL - PRIME MINISTER KING

1949, Parliament amended the Canadian Wheat Board Act to extend the CWB's marketing responsibility to encompass oats and barley
(Who decided?)
1949 - LIBERAL - PM ST. LAURENT

In 1966, this clause was removed and the Canadian Wheat Board Act became permanent legislation.
(Who decided?)
1966 - LIBERAL - PM PEARSON

In 1974, inter-provincial sales of wheat, oats and barley for use in animal feeds within Canada were removed from the sole authority of the CWB.
(Who decided?)
1974 - LIBERAL - PM TRUDEAU

In 1989, the marketing of oats was also removed from the authority of the Board, leaving it responsible only for the marketing of wheat and barley both for export and for human consumption domestically.
(Who decided?)
1989 - CONSERVATIVE - PM MULRONEY

How many farmer votes was there to decide the history above?


Don't give me the unilateral BS.

Why do you think there should be a free vote on the CWB today given the above? Just askin. Looking for some intelligent answers.

[silverback]

You are hilarious agstar!

[agstar77]

So you think we should not have a vote now because we did not have one before? Well that cetainly is logical but is it Fair or does that matter?

[Incognito]

QUOTE:

It's not the conservative/reform/alliance way to give people choice unless it suits their purpose.

UNQUOTE

Where was the Liberal choice Agstar? or did it suit their purpose at the time?

[agstar77]

Liberals are no better or worse at being politically expedient, but does that make it right to overide democratically elected CWB directors?

[silverback]

How about a question on a ballot that would say "Do you want the CWB to be the only one to market your wheat and malt barley?"

Yes or No.

Would that satisfy your ideals? That idea is coming from someone who is going to support the conservatives this year.

[agstar77]

THIS WOULD PROBABLY PREFERABLE AS DUAL MARKETING WILL NOT WORK WITHOUT THE CWB BUYING GRAIN HANDLING FACILITIES. What the Conservatives are proposing will cause chaos in the marketing system until the CWB is destroyed.

[lakenheath]

Brilliant idea. Let's let urbanites in Toronto decide the fate of the CWB. Or are you suggesting we spend extra money revamping the ballots for CWB permit book holders?