conservative victory & the CWB

[Incognito]

Question to lakenheath and Agstar? As you are the defenders of the faith - how is your history?

How did the CBW compete marketing barley during the 40 days of the dual market?

What happened to prices?

What happened to exports?

They have no business having a monopoly in barley - wheat, I can and will give them the benefit of the doubt out of respect for Ken Beswick, who said and I quote: "No one can extrapolate the premium in wheat from the marketplace, that we can" And Tom, he would have told you the same thing, outside in your tandem that fateful day @ 423 Main.

Barley - if the CWB/SWP/MPE/AWP would have let it go in 1993, the CWB would not be in this mess today. Lest we all forget, Beswick quit over barley marketing and the money that the CWB was leaving on the table and costing western Canadian farmers.

From the all or nothing approach in 1994/95 - what has changed?

But by taking an all or nothing approach - they will end up with nothing. The current BOD has chosen this route - no one else ...well, they and the 23-25% voter turnout of the 50% who hauled less than 40 MT in the past two years. Confused? You should be.

Democracy?

Lets have a Federal ballot thats weighted to vote First choice, Second choice and third choice to see how many minority governments there are.

Who set up the above parameters?

Aas it really done on a napkin at Lowe Farm?

Vader last one is for you:


QUOTE - January 27, 2004

The CWB employs 500 people. 15 of them are farm business reps. The Globe and Mail reported that the cuts will amount to, "135 positions, with the job reductions scheduled to be completed by July".

UNQUOTE

Does that mean there are only 365 employees/staff left at the CWB? Did the cuts REALLY happen?

[silverback]

For gods sakes! I am suggesting we let the people who ship grain to the CWB would vote on it. What is it like to be so afraid of a little change all the time?? For all you know it might be better, but that is too scary to consider hey?

[cropduster]

Incog...... aren`t you supposed to be resting on the sabbath????Excellent history info!!Agstar and kind are done like dinner if they don`t adapt.Can`t wait for the 23/24!!!!!!!Hopefully Ritter can get a job as pest control officer for his RM @ Major!It takes one to know one so he should be able to slow down the progression of rats to Alberta!!

[Incognito]

Nevermind I found it:

QUOTE:
It is commendable that the CWB has conducted this corporate review, and that they have taken steps to reduce costs. However, it seems that the CWB’s promise of down sizing by 135 jobs has only materialized into a reduction of 53 positions from the previous year.

UNQUOTE

http://www.choicematters.gov.ab.ca/files/pdf/CWB%20Employee%20vs.Tonnes%20Marketed-%20With%20Graph1.pdf

And the song and dance to the CWB directors was?

[wd9]

JMAN, you ask the question that are on the hearts and minds of many farmers. How does a government choose what to do given it seems both sides of the debate are fully justified and fully supported by the majority?

Simple, the group with the most dollars for lobbying and the best at it. What happend at the ministerial WTO meetings in HK is proof, 9% of agriculture held 91% of agriculture ransom to its protectionistic ways. How can a grains and oilseeds industry spending about $200,000 on lobbying ever compete with SM5 spending somewhere between 50 to 100 million $$.

Votes, majority, leader, party color have almost nothing to do with it other than coincidence. The way the game is played, always has, and probably always will.

[Jman]

Incognito:

I started this post because it is relevant to what is happening now, and how it will affect a major part of our industry. You make it sound like I'm a die-hard board supporter. I don’t believe I mentioned that in my posting? I was looking for fellow "Agrivill-ians" to post intelligent, well thought comments, with respect to the outcome of the election.

Unfortunately you seem to think only those who agree with you are intelligent.

I enjoy the debate we have on this site, and the respect most of us have for one another. Personal attacks on one's intelligence is not appropriate here.

[Pulseman]

To many comments to read and to me it is not nesessary to read any. Why? Simple: do we have a Canadian (C) Oil Board, C Lumber Board, C Car Board, C Gravel Board and so on and so on, that say who when and where and for what prices to market all thus products? No we don't. And this is the main issue: Freedome to let me make or loose my $$$. Nothing else is the discussion point. I am wise enough to invest $2 Million or more in my farming operation, but I am called to stupid to market my top grades of grain.

I just hope the torrie's win this one (but my feeling is they don't) and make an end to this bs and keep to the promise they made.

[Incognito]

Jman:
What was your moniker before you started posting again?

No where did i attack your intelligence...

I gave the history as a reminder to what has occured previous. Debate away...

[Incognito]

To everyone who is in favor of the CWB. I ask you when was the last time the precious CWB made you money.

1) When they held control of the oat market.(that sure seemed to hurt us having them lose control didn't it)

2) The CWB holding your money. (they have your best intrest at heart making sure you don't spend your money foolishly)

Bottom line guys when you need cash do you sell a 100 tonne of wheat to pay the bills, or do you sell your cash crops eg.canola,oats,peas.lentils,flax etc.

[cowman]

For all you guys who believe the CWB needs to change...you have your best shot on Jan 23? With the single desk gone you are no longer forced to support an organization that you don't believe in?
For all you guys who think the CWB is the full meal deal, you still have the option of selling your product to them? What could be more democratic than that? Or fair?
You actually get to vote for a chance to be free!