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    CWB

    Do you agree or disagree? Why?

    "SPEAKING at last week's Canadian Federation of Agriculture meeting, federal agriculture minister Chuck Strahl continued to defend prime minister Stephen Harper's dual desk agenda for the Canadian Wheat Board.

    If implemented, this will take $30 to $45 a tonne from the pockets of Canadian wheat and barley producers - $10 to $15 a tonne in lost price premiums and $20 to $30 a tonne in higher handling and transportation costs. This would destroy the prairie grain economy.

    The CWB was established by an act of Parliament and in a minority government, any changes will require the support of other political parties.

    It's time for politicians to stand up in the House and tell Harper they will not support changes to the marketing system for export wheat and barley that are not democratically determined by producers.

    If producers wanted to change the central selling authority of the CWB, all they need do is elect directors who share this view. In every election since 1998, when the board came under producer control, farmers have returned a majority of directors who support single desk selling. Support for the CWB consistently averages more than 73 percent of producers.

    The CWB already offers producers a number of flexible pricing options. They can choose to exit the price pool while still allowing the CWB to sell the grain and maintain a single sales desk, or they can fix a price and lock in a basis at any time during the crop year. Despite these options, producers have overwhelmingly (99.2 percent) chosen to stay with price pooling.

    More than a dozen studies since 1985 document that premium export prices received by western Canadian wheat and barley growers are a direct result of the CWB's single desk sales system. Canadian agricultural economists Richard Grey and Harley Furtan note "the loss of the CWB single desk status will result in a cascade of events that will fundamentally alter the economics of grain production in Western Canada."

    First to go will be the price premiums gained on many export markets, reducing farmgate returns by an estimated $10 to $15 a tonne.

    There are a number of reasons for this.

    The CWB markets consistently good grain in large volumes and is respected and trusted by grain buying agencies around the world. By regulating consistency in grading and dockage and by organized delivery processes, the CWB protects grain growers from over delivery, achieving price premiums that could not be realized in an open system.

    The CWB is the sole agent negotiating with customers who prefer high quality Canadian wheat and barley. Without exclusive selling rights, sellers would compete with one another to make export sales, driving down the price of export wheat and barley and with it, returns to Western Canada's farmers.

    Monopoly selling also allows the CWB to practice market differentiation, pricing grain at port and capturing for growers the highest profits attainable from each market. In a competitive system, f.o.b. pricing would mean the weakest market would set the price for all markets, and grower returns would suffer.

    Being a single desk seller, the CWB can invest in long-term market development of a particular customer, knowing that future benefits will be realized by Canada producers. In an open market system, such investment would make no sense because any benefits could be easily captured by the competition.

    In addition to achieving higher prices, the CWB increases returns to producers by reducing grain handling and transportation costs. Again, there are several reasons for this.

    The board does not own grain-handling facilities but instead relies on agents to procure grain. Removing central desk authority would put the CWB in competition with multinational grain companies who also act as agents for Canadian wheat and barley.

    Why should the multinationals handle CWB grain at competitive rates? Their interests would lie in circumventing CWB sales, since the less board grain that reaches port, the more buyers will have to turn to private market sales to source high quality export wheat and barley.

    The industry would soon be dominated by multinationals, and Canadian grain companies and inland producer associations would be reduced to a much smaller presence in the market.

    Large grain companies would have an economic incentive to strategically limit port capacity to boost margin, and excess capacity would erode margins at inland positions.

    Price transparency would become a major problem for farmers. The grain sector is highly concentrated. Without a sizeable domestic market, it is unlikely a viable commodity futures market would emerge. Firms would contract directly with producers and little basis level information would be available.

    The CWB is able to leverage its significant volume to keep rail costs low. Without the board, a market-based system for car allocation would inevitably raise transportation costs.

    In North Dakota and Montana, a market-based allocation system has resulted in freight rates that are nearly double those in Canada. There is no reason to think the same would not occur here, reducing farmgate returns by $20 to $30 per tonne.

    Unquestionably, the loss of the single desk selling authority of the wheat board would mean its collapse. As Justice Muldoon concluded in a 1996 charter case, "the wheat board would not be viable in a dual market."

    If producers were able to enter and exit pools whenever spot prices appeared strong, the value of the pool would drop, making it unattractive to producers. Under such circumstances, the price pooling mechanism could not survive.

    That would mean the end of the CWB, and with it the economic future of prairie communities.

    It's time for Canadian politicians of all stripes to tell Stephen Harper to keep his mitts off the CWB. "

    #2
    This is taken from the Holm piece in the recent WP..........frankly she is clueless on the reality of the situation....on many points, most importantly, that somehow the current elected structure actually represents the views of wheat growers is crap......i have heard they propose, as part of the reforms to the voting structure, that to vote you must have sold a min of 40 tonne of wheat through the board. I was told if this comes into effect 37000 elegible voters would be taken off the list.....almost all wheat growing ridings in the west elected tories MP's whose one significant promise to AG was to give us choice in marketing......canola went from a nothing crop in the west to the number one cash crop in less than 30 years with a open market model..........i do not buy the story for a minute, modern technolgy and information sharing has empowered the producer to see and understand market signals, let me decide when to sell and not to sell and who I sell to....

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      #3
      QUOTE FROM ABOVE:

      If implemented, this will take $30 to $45 a tonne from the pockets of Canadian wheat and barley producers - $10 to $15 a tonne in lost price premiums and $20 to $30 a tonne in higher handling and transportation costs. This would destroy the prairie grain economy.

      UNQUOTE

      QUOTE

      Higher Grain Shipments - The Company's grain shipments for the latest three months ended January 31, 2006 increased 214,000 tonnes (or 8.6%) compared to the same period last year, the result of a 10% increase in industry shipments of the six major grains in the latest quarter. The Company's average grain margin per tonne of $20.12 declined 3.5% from an average margin of $20.85 for the three months ended January 31, 2005.

      UNQUOTE

      QUOTE
      Gross margin for the quarter was $17.68 per tonne compared to $17.40 ($16.90 per tonne excluding one time items) in the second quarter of fiscal 2005. Higher non-Board grain, oilseeds,
      and CWB feed barley shipments more than offset the impact of lagging CWB shipments of wheat,which typically generate the strongest margins. On a year-to-date basis, gross margins recovered to $18.11 per tonne versus $16.69 per tonne during the first six months of last year.

      UNQUOTE


      CWB shipments of wheat,which typically generate the strongest margins.

      CWB shipments of wheat,which typically generate the strongest margins.

      CWB shipments of wheat,which typically generate the strongest margins.

      CWB shipments of wheat,which typically generate the strongest margins.

      CWB shipments of wheat,which typically generate the strongest margins.

      CWB shipments of wheat,which typically generate the strongest margins.

      CWB shipments of wheat,which typically generate the strongest margins.

      CWB shipments of wheat,which typically generate the strongest margins.



      What don't you get ?

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        #4
        Do some research on Ms Holmes and you will find her background is NOT in the grain industry.

        Someone is writing this "crap" as lakenheath would say...for her, giving it to her and she submits it to the WP.

        Grain policy and politics - it never ends. As Butch Harder once told me..."you need to learn to play the game".

        The "game" involves farmer's incomes and viability. The "game" is old and tired.

        Pick up the Ritchie Brothers Auction catalogue. I've seen thinner Sears catalogues.

        The "game" is serving everyone well.

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          #5
          To all of the above treads. I farmed for 31 years and have been forced to live under the CW system which I never cared or agreed with. Now for the first time in my life, there might be a chance to change it, however the resistance to change seems to be as great as ever. If the support from the CWB is so strong, then let us few farmers leave the system forever, because of the small percentage that will seemingly leave, there should have no impact on the precious CWB.

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            #6
            JagFarms,

            Look at this statement:

            "The CWB was established by an act of Parliament and in a minority government, any changes will require the support of other political parties."


            The intimation here is that the Act will have to be opened up. It doesn't. That's hype.

            Marketing choice can be obtained without changing the CWB Act or Regulations.

            Parsley

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              #7
              Just because we elected conservatives does not mean we want to get rid of the board. For most it was liberals we were trying to get rid of.
              if you want to change the voteing structure to weighted votes determined by acres of wheat ,Fine it makes sense.
              If we as farmers deciced to this , id respect that ,and live with the consequences.
              but to give in to a minoraty that figure it is benificial to have thousands of sellers of western cdn. wheat rather than one is sad.

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                #8
                According to you sawfly, there would be "thousands of sellers of western cdn. wheat", but at the same time, you argue that all these Western farmers, ("for most" according to your judgement) didn't vote for marketing choice, and want to market keep the Board.

                sawfly, are you saying Board loyalists are going to cut and run as soon as there is marketing choice?(Board Loyalists wouldn't do that, would they?)

                so that leaves the question, sawfly, who are these "thousands of sellers" you are referring to?


                As lesm put it so aptly, " the small percentage that will seemingly leave, there should have no impact on the precious CWB."

                Parsley

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                  #9
                  just ask monsanto what happens when a seller jions your market, that isnt under your control. Going to 2 sellers cut the price of glyphosate in half.
                  if there are any preiums out there they will soon dissapear with multiple sellers.
                  the board has elvoled a lot ,(for the better) hedgeing, fixed price, daily price, basis contract, and could change more, maybe organics could sell seperate etc.

                  as for the board being the reason for the ritche bros sales. Look at the the minn. and kansas wheat price charts for the last 10 years. and it has nothing to do with the fact we get 1/5 th the amercian subsides. Its fine for the open market to steal our canola this last year . its fine that chem and seed companys keep takeing larger slices of our gross revenue .but the board is responsible, for the ritichie catalouge. Right.

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                    #10
                    So, sawfly, I take it you agree that
                    "maybe organics could sell seperate".

                    That is a little ray of sunshine coming from your keyboard, sawfly..

                    You would agree then, that a handful of #issey-assed organic farmers bypassing the CWB will not make the mighty CWB collapse and wither and die off like a Taliban goat?

                    Make the recommendation to your single desk Director.. I think you have come up with a peacemaking gesture. Can you make it a committment?

                    Can you just imagine the peace and quiet on agri-ville?

                    Parsley

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                      #11
                      its not just the CWB, Sawfly...

                      its the entire "game"...and you want to ensure the "game" continues...

                      how did you construe "game" to the CWB in my post...

                      What is your answer to the current farm income crisis?

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                        #12
                        Jagfarms, yeah, I think I disagree.

                        How many of you watch the CTV/ABC TV program "LOST". My wife and I quite enjoy it. It is about people being stranded on a deserted island in the pacific after their passenger plane crash landed on the island. This is a very strange island with many bizarre plots and subplot happening.

                        Anyway one of the subplots, if you will, centers around this bunker that some type of bizarre experiment has been taking place for several years, maybe even more than twenty years. In this bunker is an old computer and a time counter on the wall. The time counter counts down from 120 (min)but before the counter reaches zero someone must type in a number code and hit enter in order to reset the clock to 120. So there has been a person on this island, typing in the number code and hitting enter every hour and a half for twenty years. They have been doing it because they were told that if they didn't some horrific and catastrophic event would take place. This person had no clue what that might be but he didn't want to risk finding out.

                        So alone come some of the plane crash survivors and he bolts out of there and tell them the need to reset the continuously running counter before time runs out. One guy says it's a hoax and that nothing would happen and that the experiment was to demonstrate how people can be persuaded to do the most ridiculous things based solely on their fear of the unknown. Another guy decided that they better not let the counter reach zero. So they keep resetting the clock.

                        Well it's the same thing with wheat marketing on the prairies. The CWB has proven that people will believe and fear the most bizarre, unbelievable and unproven things. And just like the shows characters, wheat farmers on the prairies are "LOST"

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                          #13
                          Parsley, well done.

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                            #14
                            The silly part of this whole arguement is that I never heard anybody say that there still couldn't be a wheat board, just let us that want to market our own wheat in our way do it. It really doesn't seem to be such a complex concept does it?????

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                              #15
                              Questions?
                              Are you all talking about only organic wheat being non board?

                              Would non board be sold under Canadian grade names and specs?

                              If not how would it be insured that board and non board would not get co-mingled at primary or terminals?

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