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    Ianben,

    I see this;

    "Apr 07, 2006 (The Akron Beacon Journal - Knight Ridder/Tribune Business News via COMTEX) -- WOOSTER -- In its lifetime, a pig produces enough manure -- 10 pounds a day -- to yield up to 21 gallons of crude oil.

    So could pig poop one day be fueling America's cars?

    Yuanhui Zhang, an agricultural and biological engineer at the University of Illinois, thinks that's a possibility.

    The researcher, who spoke Thursday at the Ohio Agricultural Research and Development Center, has been working for 10 years on a process to turn hog manure into crude oil.

    Using thermochemical conversion, Zhang and his team heat and pressurize the manure in a reactor or an industrial-strength pressurized oven. The resulting product is a heavy crude oil that has more energy than ethanol and nearly as much as diesel.

    "We're not there yet," Zhang said. "It's going to take more time and more money.... But the science looks workable."

    The manure-to-oil process is working in the laboratory, he said, but more research is needed to eliminate technological and engineering problems.

    A pilot project is being planned and probably will be carried out at a pig farm, Zhang said.

    A furnace-sized piece of equipment would be large enough to handle the pig manure from a small farm, he said, and the oil could then be collected and shipped away for refining.

    Turning manure into oil would do more than create a new energy source. It could also solve a problem for farmers -- getting rid of the manure, which now is mostly spread on farmland.

    And producing oil could generate additional income for farmers, perhaps as much as $10 a pig, Zhang said.

    The manure from America's 60 million pigs could be turned into 50 million barrels of oil a year, he said, and that could help reduce American dependence on foreign oil for use in vehicles and plastics.

    So if pig manure can be made into oil, what about chicken and cow droppings?

    More research is needed, but Zhang said all of America's farm manure could produce $8 billion worth of oil a year.

    Research is also under way to determine if treated sewage sludge from New York City could be turned into oil, he said.

    A handful of Wayne County dairy farmers, including Ed Stoll of Stoll Farms, had great interest in Zhang's research.

    Stoll, who has 3,000 dairy cows in Baughman Township, said getting rid of manure is becoming increasingly difficult and more costly.

    But Zhang's remedy is still a long way off, and that's discouraging, Stoll said.

    Bob Downing can be reached at 330-996-3745 or bdowning@thebeaconjournal.com"

    #2
    Charlie.

    Where are we in Alberta Ag on this front?

    Yesterday we identified a real issue.


    Dried Distillers Grain (DDG) will revolutionize livestock feeding in North America.

    As DDG becomes surplus from ethanol plants in the US; livestock feeders will shift south out of western Canada in to the US mid west where a huge majority the DDG is produced.

    Alberta is on the tail end of the surge to produce ethanol... how do we catch up?

    Further the above technology... and many others; are good reason to carefully plan our entry in to the Bio Fuel system... using a best practices system that conserves water and energy... to be as efficient as possible.

    Clearly we need to carefully plan and implement development that adds value to our communities, economy, and families.

    R&D is obviously needed.

    IOGEN, this project from Illinois, and many others need to be attracted to Alberta.
    How do we get this process going?

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      #3
      How does Agriculture compete with this... in Alberta?

      http://news.tradingcharts.com/futures/8/7/77444078.html?mpop

      "New York, Apr 07, 2006 (M2 PRESSWIRE via COMTEX) -- In a story published in early March, AXcess News covered the Canadian oil sands being developed in Alberta where government figures put the reserves second only to Saudi Arabia. Today, after the U.S. Department of Energy reported that crude oil stocks rose 2.1 million barrels, traders concern over world supplies pushed crude oil up over $1 per barrel, or 3 percent.

      Peoria, Illinois-based Caterpillar, Inc. (NYSE: CAT) and other heavy-equipment manufacturers could stand to gain as much as $5 billion in sales as a boom in oil squeezed from Canadian sand may boost demand for mining trucks and parts.

      Syncrude Canada Ltd., Suncor Energy Inc. (NYSE: SU), Shell Canada (TSX: SHC), Petrobank Energy and Resources (TSX: PBG) and other Canadian oil-sands miners will need to add almost 300 Caterpillar mining trucks and graders by 2013 to unlock Alberta's reserves, according to Finning International Inc., the world's leading Caterpillar dealer.

      In early March, Petrobank announced that it increased its oil sands land base by 33% and initial start up operations was underway at the Whitesands pilot project.

      Whitesands Insitu Ltd., owned 84% by Petrobank, acquired a total of 15 sections of oil sands leases at a net cost of $20 million.
      "Suncor is now producing 260,000 barrels of oil per day from oil sands and expects the output to grow to 3 million barrels by 2015 and 5 million barrels per day by 2030," said Richard George, Suncor's chief executive at the National Petrochemical and Refiners Association annual meeting in Salt Lake City, Utah.
      George pointed out that oil production from the Alaska North Slope and California is declining, leaving California refiners to look for imports from Latin America. "The Gulf Coast holds obvious attractions," he said. "It's the largest refining complex in the world. And with about half of the United States' coking and hydrocracking capacity, it already has the right pots and pans to run a wide variety of oil sands product slates."
      Royal Dutch Shell Plc said its Shell EP Americas unit paid C$465 million ($400 million) to buy 10 properties in northern Alberta, the highest price paid for Canadian oil sand leases last month.

      The Hague-based Royal Dutch Shell said its U.S. unit has formed a new company, SURE Northern Energy Ltd., to assess and exploit its new holdings, even though its 78-percent-owned Canadian unit, Shell Canada Ltd, is already a top investor in the oil-rich region of northern Alberta"

      Now, how do we get the balance right... in development?

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        #4
        Wouldn't it be wise to be the "energy" centre for North America shipping preblended B5 or B10 Biodiesel direct from Alberta to all of North America.

        You keep pushing Tom and I will too.

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          #5
          I should have typed B5 or B10 Pre blended Diesel.
          Lets have the facilities and the jobs here for the Bio diesel as well as the diesel.

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            #6
            Our gov't seems to be more worried about who the next King will be and trying to decide what a "Third Way" actually is and how or if it should ever happen.

            We can't even get the b__lls to create choice in selling our own grain let alone biodiesel. Nice brochure though.

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              #7
              Ag Canada doesn't even have a policy on biodiesel - let alone a vision. Many don't know it exists. Alberta's priemiers' view of alternate energy - coal! It will be a very long road ahead indeed.

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                #8
                Silverback,

                I agree the initiative taken away by using the excuse of CWB "single desk" mythology... has distracted many in western Canada.

                Uncertainty and fear are powerful distractions... and the CWB has used them with creativity and efficiency to bind many.

                However it is our choice to get past it...

                I am hopefull that Minister Horner has turned the Alberta page... that Premier Klein has promised $100m for rural initiatives... and that we will take the opportunity to team up with the federal Conservatives and go!

                What is needed?

                The political will to forge a future... with vision, character, and unselfish leadership that respects people and our future generations.

                What a time of opportunity and prosperity!

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                  #9
                  WD9;

                  Our challenge is to set the vision, lead the way, and to fill in the missing blanks!

                  I know we will get shot at, be hated by many, but we leave this life the same way we came into it... with nothing attached! No Material Possesions.

                  Are we up to it WD9?

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                    #10
                    WD9,

                    DO we make Farmtech 2007 an AGenergy Challenge 2007... and make a visionary start there?

                    5 year goals
                    10 year goals
                    25 year goals
                    50 year goals

                    I believe we have the critical mass to finance this industry vision... do we have the leadership?

                    Ag Canada and AB Ag are searching.

                    Isn't this our golden opportunity WD9?

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                      #11
                      Tom, you heard the bioenergy presentations at Grain World. If you were like me, you learned more in that few hours than at any other time.

                      I'd cheer on the 07 Farmtech conference if they highlighted bioenergy on their agenda. Go for it!

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                        #12
                        Lee;

                        There are many who have been waiting 15 years for this opportunity... I believe the timing is right to move now.

                        Politically;
                        Environmentally;
                        Economically;
                        Socially;
                        And even the spirit of our farm communities and Nation: are yearning for a vision... an opportunity... like we have been wandering in the wilderness

                        God Bless Canada!

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                          #13
                          There are lots of things happening at AAFRD on the bio fuel although not as visible as what some would want. The approach to date is more supply chain in working with all the elements of the industry starting from the consumer (eg. talking about the benefits of bio diesel blends in terms of clean burning and improved lubricity), attracting long term/sustainable investment and finally the changes at the farm level to support including the new industry. It is more complicated than the government simply mandating a 5 % inclusion rate in fuel.

                          This is a good discussion in that it is important to look at government policy levers. It is also important to look at how industry moves this forward.

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                            #14
                            We'll get a good feel at the National Biodiesel Board conference in Calgary in July on the 'state' of the industry.

                            And yes TOM4CWB, we are not only up to it, it is full steam ahead!

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                              #15
                              Canadian Renewable Fuels Summit runs Dec 12 - 14 /06 in Calgary. Another excellent conference.

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