Pipeline Experiences

[MBFarmer1]

At present I have 5 oil pipelines running across a large stretch of our farm. The easements and various agreements for these lines were originally signed in 1952. In the next 12 to 24 months the current lines will be twinned and new easements will be required. A number of farmers have already formed an association to bargain collectively to ensure our interests are protected but I was just wondering if others out there have experience with this and what type of compensation they received to let the pipeline go across their land?

[crusher]

Negotiating as a group has worked better in our area. Try to get a lawyer with experience to represent your group, their fees should be covered. Payments are based on land values, if you're close to a thriving city you will get substantially more than being 25 miles out.

I just went through the same process and found it was easier to negotiate damages and inconveniences (after their done) than land costs up front.

[bward]

Most people think of a pipeline as a temporary inconvience, its buried underground and once it stops caving in you hardly notice it anymore. However it can permenantly affect future use of your land. It will affect you if you ever want to subdivide your land. It will affect you if they discover gravel on your land and they want to make you millionaires harvesting it when they discover a pipeline is sitting on top of all that gravel, and they can't get permission from the oil company to drive over it. Be very very careful of giving them permission to put a pipeline just anywhere. Make sure you have some say in where it goes and how deep etc. There has been talk about forcing companies to pay an annual rent and some farmers being successful in getting it. Do your homework.

[melvill]

MBFarmer1, would MB mean you are from Manitoba? If you're from Alberta, make certain you contact the Farmer's Advocate by dialing 310-0000 and asking for that office.

We had a pipline go across our land. We and the neighbors used a land man, who has become and landowner consultant (who the companies said went over to the dark side) to help us negotiate.

[cowman]

I don't think Ralph has anything to gain here? His days are numbered?
However, whether we like it or not he has pointed out the problem? How much is too much to spend on healthcare and how do we rein in costs?
I don't hear any of the leadership contenders saying much other than "status quo" or a revised edition of the "third way"? Don't hear anyone advocating a return to elected hospital boards? Do hear both the liberals and NDP saying "Spend more money"!
The government of Alberta spends over one third of its money on healthcare? When it rises to 60% of the budget...where will that money come from? Every other government service is being squeezed by the healthcare portion right now?

[wilagro]

Ralph is like a sore loser...a bear with a sore a*s. He met his 'Waterloo' with his turd way and is still smarting.

It is a sneaky way to get even with those who didn't support him. Dirty pool in my opinion.

Strange how NDP figures don't jibe whith Ralph's regarding percentage of health costs to total expenditures.

Is the gov't fudging figures so as to let in the 'third way'?

Stay tuned...we will see what the NEW leadership turkeys have to say on this issue.

[coppertop]

I am waiting patiently to hear what each candidate says on various issues, health being one of them..

Understanding that regionalization of health boards has not worked and making the decision to change some of that process back to local control will likely not be one of the planks in any platform but it would make more sense than having people running helter skelter to see specialists, have tests done etc. within their own region. The user of health care quite often isn't well, in many cases is not feeling like going on a tour of the province to get health care, so obviously what is in place currently is not meeting the demands of many folks that are ill.

[dsinclair]

If you really want to find out the limitations of pipelines, visit the site www.pipelines-landowners.com
I'll bet that anyone who checks out this site really didn't know all the implications of having a pipeline(s) on their property.
And remember, you as a landowner are responsible for whatever leaves your land!