Stay in 05-06 Advance Payment by Minister Strahl

[wd9]

JD4ME, just a tidbit of info, the cash advance is a federal program under the programs marketing act. The cash advance is not owned by the CWB, just managed where the pool covers administration costs. That management could come under CCGA, or banks, or any other group if the board no longer existed.

It probably would no longer be 'free' however. In the real world, costs need to be recovered from those who use the service.

[JD4ME]

I'm quite aware of the background of the cash advance and yes in the in the "real" world interest is always paid by someone in this case it's a federal government program and it's a subsidy. As for Toms reply I'm absolutely bemused to talk like that abut every sector above us in the food chain that way while constantly campaigning for the end of the wheat board. I may have to print that out and frame it a classic example of hypocracy if I've ever read one. On one hand youre constantly demanding market chioce and access to the free market on one hand yet here you are thinking the other players in the free market need to be controled? Talking out of both side of your mouth at the same time doesn't win many arguments.
I'm going to take the next two weeks while we're at the lake and try and forget all about why famers are their own worst enemies in this system we've so carefully screwed up here in Canada.

[wd9]

Oops, misread your post and your last statement. I must have been too giddy thinking about all the subsidies we as Canadians get when the other countries we compete against get so little, LOL.

[TOM4CWB]

WD9;

We will only take an advance from CCGA because they respect our farm... and as a matter of principal refuse to take a CWB advance because of their policies.

THis costs more... and the sooner we can get services for wheat from another service provider... the better.

Perhaps the CWB would allow CCGA to issue wheat/barley advances... if CCGA would allow the CWB to issue advances on non-board grains?

Then we could have freedom of choice!

[TOM4CWB]

JD4ME;

"When agrarian utopians attack markets in the name of human nobility and high aspirations, they seem to lose sight of what markets do best. And by losing sight of the bottom line, they lose touch with an important reality.

Then they blame reality for not conforming to their utopian dreams.

This vicious spiral of utopian dreaming explains why prairie farmers supported the Crow rates for so long, and why they distrusted the Winnipeg Grain Exchange, and why so many still support the CWB.

But one can oppose or ignore reality for only so long.

Eventually the dream ends.

Even the NDP must eventually balance its books."

Quote by Barry Cooper, a Globe and Mail columnist and a Professor of Political Science at the University of Calgary

[wd9]

The only trouble is Tom4CWB, if you had a choice between 'free' and an application fee to get the advance, CCGA would do little business. Pretty much only yours and mine and about 4 other people

As an aside, should canola have been requesting a stay?

[TOM4CWB]

A stay on individual cases that can't make delivery on Canola would be reasonable.

It would be an easy step to harmonise the CWB and CCGA fees, and simply stop subsidies form the CWB pool accounts.

It doesn't cost more to add more grains to the CCGA advance... and if the Pool subsidy were eliminated on the CWB side... then it would be fairer all around.