carbon offsrts

[lesm]

has anyone applied for the carbon offsets available in sask. thru the chicago carbon exchange? what are the pros and cons for doing this?

[AdamSmith]

Ok, what part of the following definition DOES NOT apply to the Canadian Wheat Board's "Harvesting Opportunity"?


Delusion
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Delusion

A delusion is commonly defined as a fixed false belief and is used in everyday language to describe a belief that is either false, fanciful or derived from deception. In psychiatry, the definition is necessarily more precise and implies that the belief is pathological (the result of an illness or illness process).

Delusions typically occur in the context of neurological or mental illness, although they are not tied to any particular disease and have been found to occur in the context of many pathological states (both physical and mental). However, they are of particular diagnostic importance in psychotic disorders and particularly in schizophrenia.

Psychiatric definition
Although non-specific concepts of madness have been around for several thousand years, the psychiatrist and philosopher Karl Jaspers was the first to define the three main criteria for a belief to be considered delusional in his book General Psychopathology. These criteria are:

certainty (held with absolute conviction)
incorrigibility (not changeable by compelling counterargument or proof to the contrary)
impossibility or falsity of content (implausible, bizarre or patently untrue)
These criteria still live on in modern psychiatric diagnosis. In the most recent Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders, a delusion is defined as:

A false belief based on incorrect inference about external reality that is firmly sustained despite what almost everybody else believes and despite what constitutes incontrovertible and obvious proof or evidence to the contrary. The belief is not one ordinarily accepted by other members of the person's culture or subculture (e.g. it is not an article of religious faith).

[cropduster]

Adam...I like the very last sentence!!Not in brackets.

[TOM4CWB]

Cropduster;

But; I am afraid it is an article of religious faith, for the deluded CWB'ers, isn't it?

[Zaphod]

So, the board wants to maintain their hold on supply with a "monopoly" but they want to compete with the grain companies? Why do you need to compete if you already "own" the crop? I'm assuming they also want to keep control of transportation too. So that would let them run the whole show like they do now, move it through their facilities, and tilt the playing field against everyone else in the game.

Good thing it's only a pipe dream (unless the liberals get back into power before the conservatives can get rid of the monopoly).

[cropduster]

Say TOM,did you see the one liner in there where they want to transfer the permit books with the land?

[TOM4CWB]

Cropduster;

I didn't.

I did see that they didn't want shares to be issued; and have heard that the CWB pays $165million in benefits to the Manitoba economy... and that they offered the Manitoba premier a position on the Board.

WOW... how could you turn down an offer like that... if you are a Manitoba grain grower?

[agstar77]

Seems like everyone wanted change in CWB operations. Now that they want to act more like a free market company you don't like it . Are you ever satisfied or do you just like to"B"? What the CWB is suggesting is certainly better than what Chuck's cadre is recommending.

[TOM4CWB]

Agstar77;

"Now that they want to act more like a free market company"

Say what?

Issue no shares;

Be a non-profit;

Board to appoint their own "political" Directors;

$Demand a gift of 1.5 billion

AND

Retain the right to confiscate/steal my grain... "single desk" retained

PLUS

Go into many other sectors of handling/crop inputs/marketing.

Do you think this is a realistic offer; when this governments stated priority and policy is:

The best guarantors of prosperity and well-being of the people of Canada
are:

a) The freedom of individual Canadians to pursue the enlightened and
legitimate self-interest within a competitive economy;

b) The freedom of individual Canadians to enjoy the fruits of their labour
to the greatest possible extent; and

c) The right to own property...

How does the CWB fulfill even one of our national priorities with "Harvesting Opportunity"?

[charliep]

Kinda interesting to go back in the Commodity Market threads and see what was said six months ago.

http://www.agri-ville.com/cgi-bin/forums/viewThread.cgi?1138637632

Is at the end/may get deleted shortly but perhaps a reminder that none of the ideas are necessarily new.

[charliep]

Just thought I would post the response by the Western Grain Elevators Association.

http://www.ccnmatthews.com/news/releases/show.jsp?action=showRelease&searchText=false&showT ext=all&actionFor=606466