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    World Prices for Wheat

    Charlie;

    I see this on US wheat associates:

    http://www.uswheat.org/justReleased/doc/5B186C1FA9947FF2852571EE00672B94?OpenDocument#

    "Severe drought this year reduced HRW production by 29 percent (7.3 MMT) and HRS by nine percent (1.2 MMT), one of the reasons why U.S. bread wheat prices are up. By July, HRW cash FOB prices were $64/MT, or 43 percent higher than July 2005. HRS prices were up $30/MT, or 17 percent. The increase initially put U.S. bread wheats at a price disadvantage to competitor supplies. For example, on July 15, U.S. HRW was offered to Egypt at $207/MT, while wheat with alternative quality parameters were lower with Canadian CWRS offered at $179, German and French at $154 and Russian at $143.

    Prices of U.S. soft wheats did not follow HRS and HRW. Although production in the Black Sea region, a major competitor with U.S. soft wheats, fell considerably due to winterkill and drought, ample supplies and high production in both Canada and the United States helped keep supply up and prices down. In the July 15 Egyptian tender U.S. SW was offered at $144/MT, U.S. SRW at $147 and Canadian SRW at $146. Compared to July 2005, U.S. SRW export prices had gained $13/MT, or ten percent, and SW increased only one percent, or $2/MT.

    As summer in North American ended, dry conditions in Argentina and Australia continued, adding to concerns over a tightened wheat supply situation. The USDA World Agricultural Supply and Demand Estimates (WASDE) released last week forecasts a 20 percent (5 MMT) production decline in Australia, and an 11 percent decline (2 MMT) in Argentina compared to the 10-year average. However, the start of harvest in the Southern Hemisphere is still two months away and crop yields may yet be improved by rain.

    Finally, dramatic price action in August resulted when drought and heat ravaged crops in Northern Europe, particularly France and Germany. Two weeks of persistent rain then delayed harvest and damaged grain quality. The WASDE forecasts a three percent (4 MMT) decline in production in the EU from last year.

    Offers for an Egyptian tender illustrate the worldwide price increase. Offers of French wheat were made the week of September 11 at $183/MT, up 19 percent ($30/MT) from the July 15 tender. Russian wheat was offered at $179, up 25 percent ($36/MT), and Australian soft wheat was offered at $184, up 15 percent ($24/MT) in two months.

    Yet U.S. bread wheat prices have actually fallen over the same time. U.S. HRW export prices were $203/MT on September 13, down from $207 in July. HRS was at $176/MMT, down from $205. Although U.S. soft wheat prices are up more than 10 percent, they remain the most competitively priced wheat in the world."



    Charlie;

    Where are the indicators that the CWB is "extracting a premium" for "designated area" wheat growers?

    Did I miss something?

    When the Basis has been narrowing on lower quality Russian, Black Sea, and Argentinian wheats... why have our Winter and CPS Basis levels got worse?

    Can anyone fill us in here?

    Ianben... what is going on in Great Britan?

    Mallee... how about in AU?

    #2
    We have cash prices on offer today of $256 aust per tonne of asw wheat which is a cash price the best the marketing monopolys can offer is about $210 its a drought premium which could go another 60 to 80 higher depending on cbot and decling world stocks

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      #3
      We have cash prices on offer today of $256 aust per tonne of asw wheat which is a cash price the best the marketing monopolys can offer is about $210 its a drought premium which could go another 60 to 80 higher depending on cbot and decling world stocks

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        #4
        Just a couple of comments.

        Moving to an open market will not deal with the wide range of prices highlighted here. North American prices will be above world levels with quality and ability to make supply commitments the drivers. What will happen is there will be wider variation of Canadian prices with quality requirements, ability to ship in a just in time world and competition from other markets the drivers. Marketing skills, understanding customers quality needs and ability to find higher valued markets will be drivers of success.

        I also note that Canada does not have a good market signal system or the ability to identify/segregate wheat based on quality characturistics. Why are hard US red winter wheat wheats worth the premiums they are over other world wheats? Does Canada have similar wheat worth similar value? Does this value get reflected to the farmers that grow it?

        I will note a move to using wheat in ethanol will change the above somewhat. Less wheat into the lower priced markets. What will make things interesting is that I am not sure that an ethanol wheat is the same wheat that will be sold into a higher valued milling wheat market. Lots of starch and lower protein. In the case of CPS wheat (or for that matter winter wheat), should an ethanol wheat have the same pooled payment/price? Will add more interesting elements into a farmers decision about what to grow.

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          #5
          In a post-CWB world with every farmer competing for sales in a highly volatile world market which farmers will actully be working with end users to negotiate prices and terms of delivery? I say few if any.

          So with freedom to market their own grain most will do no such thing. With the various classes of wheat it will be very hard to sort out the various price signals coming from ethanol plants, grain exchanges, foreign markets, competitor countries, brokerages and grain companies. How will the average farmer "market" his grain.

          I maintain that virtually every farmer will be forced to choose a marketing partner as opposed to marketing their own grain. Many will simply choose a delivery point and take whatever price is offered that day, particularly when cash flow is required. Harvest pressure will take its toll on many bank accounts. Which crop should one "dump" to pay the bills?

          What does the average farmer want in a marketing partner.

          One producer suggested to me that he wanted:

          "A marketing partner with a corporate and social responsiblity to increase equity in the region".

          How many multinational grain companies fit that bill?

          It will be a brave new world when we are all set free.

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            #6
            Who markets the grain on your organic farm, Vader? You, a grain company or the CWB?

            What price signals are you using to sell your organic grain?

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              #7
              And what led you to free yourself from the bonds of the CWB when you started your organic operation?

              What is your definition of "highly volatile"?? If you mean that there might actually open up more markets for our products I would agree.

              "I maintain that virtually every farmer will be forced to choose a marketing partner as opposed to marketing their own grain". Hilarious, and what big choices do we have right now Vader. I am forced to market the best product I can grow on my farm through the CWB. Is that "choice"? No.

              Bring on the brave new world so that those that want to be free can be free.

              Socialism is not the answer we need now and never has been.

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                #8
                Silverback, dead on. All my other crops have partners and are customer focused, doing wheat will not be a big deal.

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                  #9
                  It's good to have you back Vader!

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                    #10
                    Incognito - who markets my organic grains?

                    I work with many certified organic processors. Generally they deal with end users.

                    It appears however that we organic growers have gotten too good at growing organic grains and the markets are oversupplied.

                    I have all of last years lentils still here on my farm. I sold only 1/2 of last years flax and the processors tell me that there is no market for the lentils at any price and the flax is under severe pressure from organic flax imports from China.

                    This is getting somewhat (a lot) stressful just as it is for the vast majority of conventional growers facing low commodity prices and limited delivery opportunities.

                    It is too bad that silverback considers having the CWB as a marketing partner hilarious. I gather he would prefer to line the pockets of the CEO's of large multinational grain companies as opposed to returning all profits from sales to producers and building equity in Western Canada.

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                      #11
                      If the only card you can play is the "big greedy corporations" card, I would suggest that you get ready to fold.

                      Soon.

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                        #12
                        What grade is your lentils and flax?

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                          #13
                          Vader quote:"A marketing partner with a corporate and social responsiblity to increase equity in the region".

                          How many multinational grain companies fit that bill? "End quote"

                          JRI & Louis Dreyfus each building canola crush plants at Yorkton. Also Cargill with expansion at Clavet.

                          Vader, why don't you give up on your fear mongering?

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                            #14
                            Cause that is the only means that socialist know.It is almost impossible to have a discussion about changeing theCWB with because immediately they take as you want to destroy it.

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                              #15
                              Flax and Lentils are both #1

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