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    #11
    Silverback;

    To be fair to the CWB... I believe Strahl has done EXACTLY what CWB wants on the present voters list in this Director Election (2006)

    I believe it is a reasonable compromise... and no one can claim that STRAHL cherry picked the recommendations... on revision of who should vote.

    Goodale had 10 years to figure this thing out and blew it.

    DR. Doolittle did what he did best... nothing and watch things implode.

    Gets rid of the problem... or lets someone else take the blame later.

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      #12
      Lakenheath;

      "The CWB has the same effect on[e] a small grain farmer as it does on a large one."

      To say a grower with 500 acres of grain production has the same challenges in economic terms as a 5000 acre farm is unbelievable.

      It is this type of logic that will cause the end of the CWB.

      You don't seriously believe this do you?

      Please explain yourself!

      If I don't manage risk and earn in the top 1/3 average price... on 5 or 10 thousand acres my farm is toast, broke caput.

      Someone with 500 acres can easily use the pool accounts and cover up marketing problems with the day job wages.

      NOT the same at all... in the real world of farmers 25-55 years old in the productive earning years of their lives.

      What did I miss Laken?

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        #13
        <p>So, uh, what ever happened to the election task force that looked into the process and weighting of acres etc?
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          #14
          So as interested parties can my wife vote? What about my kids who are interested in food on the table (okay actually they only care about hockey equipment) and my landlords who are interested in me being profitable enough to pay rent?
          I would like to get them all registered to vote at least once.

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            #15
            Ron;

            If you pay anyone with grain... they can get a CWB permit book # as an interested party to the permit book.

            I personally don't see anything wrong with this... but a weighting on production and grain sales would be fair... IMHO

            But remember... the CWB was never about being fair... it was about being equal... sort of if you are a communist.

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              #16
              wilagro:

              You seem to be concerned that the govt is trying to skew the number of eligible voters. In case you weren't aware, CWB management agreed with the govt on this one...

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                #17
                Jeez Tom, if you farm 5000 acres and need to be in the top 1/3 of prices to make it, you need a career change! I farm 900 acres, my wife works and we get by nicely. With your economies of scale, you "should" be fine! As for votes, I get one, you get one, every cwb active farmer, and those who request "farmer" status get one. What makes you better than me? Bill gates gets one vote. Stephen Harper got one vote. Chuck Strahl got one vote. It's called the democratic process, it's what we live by, and you shouldn't get to weight your votes just because you think YOU are more important then ME!

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                  #18
                  Rosco;

                  So it is just fine for those who don't own our families farm... to take our grain and take our money... just because there are more of you... than there are in my family. We support 5 families on our farm.

                  So how many votes should we get?

                  What you are forcing on us is GANG warfare... with a gun at our head... not a free and democratic society.

                  Ritter had it right (the gun and a smile)...

                  Communist confiscation will not create prosperity and harmony. Even the Chinese found this out!

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                    #19
                    I agree with you 100% Rosco.

                    One person - one vote.

                    If you agree with that, how can you support this. Thats why some want weighting. You can't have it both ways. How many other times have you voted in a system like the one below?
                    And if it is so good, let the politicians adopt the same method.

                    CWB Preferential Ballot

                    A preferential vote system will be used in accordance with Regulation to ensure that elected Directors obtain the support of the majority of producers casting votes in the district. Voters will be asked to rank the candidates in their district, in the order of their voting preference, for example, First choice, Second choice, Third choice, Fourth, etcetera.

                    If, after the initial count, no candidate has received a majority of First choice votes (i.e. – 50% plus 1 vote), a second count will be conducted. This second count involves eliminating the last place candidate from the process and reassigning that candidate’s votes based on his/her voter’s second choice or preference of candidate. This process will continue until one candidate receives the required 50% plus one of the votes.

                    If a voter does not rank all candidates on a ballot, that ballot will continue to be included in successive vote counts as long as the candidate(s) that are ranked remain in the running.

                    If a voter does not rank his choices in strict numerical sequence, the ballot will be counted only to the extent that a strict sequence is maintained (for example – if a ballot reflects a preferential ranking of 1, 2, 4, 5, 6, etc. only the rankings of 1 and 2 will be utilized --- even if the ranking of 3 is obvious).

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                      #20
                      It needs repeating. If the CWB claims farmers are choosing their future by voting in CWB elections, then only farmers should be allowed to vote. A farmer by definition should be one who plants, grows and harvests the crop. A farmer is not an third party who crop shares. If it's that important that you feel you need to vote you can always come out of retirement and live in the same world as the rest of us.

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