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    #25
    wedino you don't remember the barley vote?

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      #26
      Rosco you wrote;

      I get one, you get one, every cwb active farmer, and those who request "farmer" status get one. What makes you better than me? Bill gates gets one vote. Stephen Harper got one vote. Chuck Strahl got one vote. It's called the democratic process, it's what we live by,

      When Bill Gates is voting for his congressman, he does just get one vote, but when Bill Gates is voting for who is on Microsoft’s BOD, he gets 100 gazillion votes. There are a different set of rules for him to follow when deciding the future direction of his company than there are when he’s deciding the future direction of his country.

      One set of rules apply to the computer business, and a totally different set of rules apply who runs the country.

      If you believe this is an issue about the CWB’s mandate to be in the wheat business, you have to accept the concept of weighing votes.

      If you believe this is an issue about the CWB’s mandate to be in the control business, you accept the concept of one man one vote.

      I personally believe it’s the former, but to the cwb and many others it’s the latter.

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        #27
        <p>So, uh, what ever happened to the CWB election task force that looked into the process and weighting of acres etc?
        In the meantime I'll be...
        </p>

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          #28
          wd9,

          I believe it went to the sameplace that you went to.

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            #29
            Are we voting on politics or business??? Consider this - I own shares in a publicly traded company, my votes are weighted to the direct proportion of ownership or interest I have in it, it depends solely on my interest and someone who has no stkae in the business has no say whatsoever. In politics, every single Canadian of voting age gets a vote regardless of money, status etc... The CWB claims it is a Producer controlled "business" organization, not Government "political" agency. Which is it? Can't have it both ways. I think it has to be weighted by some measure or else left decided by all of Canada. Why the double standard

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              #30
              Stubblejump, Don't remember, I asked that you remind me in a previous thread, please remind me.

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                #31
                AS wins the prize, an all expense paid trip to.... Nokomis, Sask.

                Funny how this same line of discussion went on before, during and now after the task force completed its work, and hey, still no resolution. Great smokescreen, I must admit. Hook, line and sinker.

                Same circle, just a bit bigger. Anyone wanna bet the open market question ends up not answered? At least some people will be busy for a while though.

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                  #32
                  Adamsmith

                  valid point about Bill Gates. But that is in an ownership position. He has bought, earned or gained shares in Microsoft due to his own money spent. We do business with the CWB. We don't "invest" in it in the same sense as Gates and Microsoft. The corperate rules allow for Gates to have a gazillion votes because of his gazillion shares. In the eyes of the CWB, I feel that you and I are equal. We each have one "share." You may farm more than me, but we still should get only one vote apiece. You might be the biggest customer of your local machinery dealership, but do you tell the owner how to run it?

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                    #33
                    Why should the farmer in Ontario, Quebec and the interior BC not have the right to vote in a pleb. too?

                    They have to be clamouring to get in this $500,000,000 to $800,000,000 dollar bonus that only western farmers are allowed into.

                    They grow wheat. This is Canada.

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                      #34
                      I find radio news reports this morning interesting regarding concerns of some of the district candidates may have ineligible people on their nomination forms (have not delivered wheat or barley in the last two years on a permit book). Suspect there are processes (getting others to sign, complete a statuatory declaration) but still interesting.

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                        #35
                        Incognito;

                        I see this in the CWB Act:

                        "Regulations

                        Application to wheat produced outside designated areas

                        40. (1) The Governor in Council may, by regulation, apply the provisions of this
                        Part, in respect of wheat produced in any area in Canada outside the designated
                        area, specified in the regulation.

                        Definitions

                        (2) For the purpose of the application of this Part in respect of wheat produced
                        in any area specified in a regulation made under subsection (1),

                        "designated area" «région désignée»

                        "designated area" shall be construed as referring to the area so specified;

                        "pool period" «période de mise en commun»

                        "pool period" means such period or periods, not exceeding one year, as the
                        Governor in Council may prescribe as a pool period or pool periods in respect of
                        that wheat.

                        R.S., c. C-12, s. 32."


                        It would sure be easy to make this a national vote... I like this plebicite idea! Then we all get to endure the same pain... or not!

                        This is a scheme if I have ever seen one... WOW

                        To think farmers are in control of this little puppy! LOL

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                          #36
                          Hey tom, to bad you I.Q didnt expand with you acres.

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