December 9 – 10, 2006 Ballots tabulated

[cottonpicken]

What If....

Dual marketing does happen and the cwb2 retains 85% of the grain.
Then they decide to play hardball.
They could effectivly neutter the 15% of their now "competion" in a number of ways.
The more i think about this the more plausible it becomes.Of course there are a million variables to consider.

[Incognito]

Put the cards on the table Vader.
Everytime a credible question is asked of you here - you disappear and don't answer.

The CWB has conspired with Goodale for 13 years to justify their existence with no regard for farmer's rights as a Canadian. See feed sales in Canada - see how the Act was changed - see how the Organic farmers were sh*t on. Tell farmers about NAFTA Vader, tell them WHY you can't be the single desk inside Canada. Tell them how the CWB conspired with feed mills to cirumvent NAFTA...and let farmers decide if it was for their benefit or the existence of the CWB.

For 25 years, the CWB has only told farmers what THEY thought farmers needed to know. JARVIS, HEHN, MACHEJ, MEASNER...

So in the absense of facts and only the same old rhetoric, I don't give a rats ass.

Show farmers that you are extracting a premium with no BS - and i'll be over to your camp in a nano-second.

I'll even live in a square cube.

But do it quick, because you don't have much time.

Ken Beswick had enough moral standard to walk away rather than continue to screw farmers in the barley market.

Beswick had more morals than the rest of this industry put together - God rest his soul.

Nothing has changed since then except the Act and Ralph's insistence that everything is ENSHRINED IN THE ACT - like it has been there forever...frikkin garbage.

And that 70% figure is a crock - and you know it.

Does the single desk extract a premium for farmers in barley in western Canada?

Let's see if you give a rats ass about farmers...

[Incognito]

Cotton:

If they had 50% of the grain - the rest of the industry would bow down to whatever they needed.

The industry is overbuilt. They need every tonne they can get their hands on.

Everytime i see the word "can't do it"... i shudder.

Can't is a just a word for "don't want to".

[cottonpicken]

Well what are the numbers?Perception and reality are two vastly different things.I percieve farmers want a choice just to keep everything honest but would stay loyal to the board.Kind of like having a red and a green dealership in town.Your still going to buy green but its nice to know reds there keeping them in line.I defintely might be wrong on this.Almost as wrong as tom thinking i'm socialist or commy.


If anyone is going to agribition how about for fun we each ask ten complete STRANGERS about their feelings on the board.These people should be the main owner/ operater of a grain farm in western canada.
The questions should be:
1:do you support the board,no board,or dual marketing.
2:if you support dual marketing would you still go through the board.
3:?????-other possible questions

I would hope everyone would keep the results honest and accurate.

Any other thoughts on this idea?

[Incognito]

3) Do you wish to have the Freedom of Information Act apply to the CWB?

a) when the CWB wants to hide behind the Act - they say it cannot be changed without a vote - it says so in the Act. The Act is controlled by the government.

b) when the CWB wants to hide behind the Freedom of Information Act - they say they are not a government agency - they are a farmer controlled organization.

see the dichotomy?

[liberty]

"What good will another two bit grain company (CWBII) do for the average farmer and his net income?"

This "two-bit" grain company is likely to do more positive things for a farmer's net income than the present CWB given that it will have to operate in an environment in which there are several buyers competing for farmers' grain.

Adam Smith, myself and many others have put a lot of time into this forum setting out arguments as to how a market with true choice would operate and how a reformed CWB could continue to function. I don't appreciate having those arguments dismissed with comments such as how we don't give a rat's @#% about farmers. This kind of commentary doesn't add anything to the debate.