Mr. Strahl not Mr. Stalin

[mustardman]

When a ceo -Mr. Measner- follows the
cwb act as a single desk seller of grain he is doing his job.
When and if when the CWB ACT is changed then the ceo will have to follow the new act BUT UNTIL THAT TIME COMES, the gov't should not be taking examples from past Soviet leaders and imposing their heavy handedness on the board.

[agstar77]

That is part of the topic for the emergency debate. Can the government of the day change CWB policy and operation without permission from parliament?

[JACKFLASH]

Mustardman:

YOu don't think the board is not heavy handed in their past dealings with farmers? What goes around comes around.

[mustardman]

Jackflash , until the law is changed,
then the Harper gov't should not impose its ideological mindset on the board at the consequence of being disciplined, fired or removed from the board.
The heavy-handedness towards farmers you are speaking of I presume your referring to a few years ago when Custom laws were broken? These same farmers Asked the police to place them in cuffs and irons knowing what a great photo opportunity that would be.

[parsley]

Could Measner's 'granderdizing' possibly have some brotherhood to:

RICHARD HOWARD KLASSEN
Plaintiff
- and -
HER MAJESTY THE QUEEN
Defendant

Read this juicy claim at:
http://decisions.fct-cf.gc.ca/en/2004/2004fc193/2004fc193.html

Should Mr. Measner takes counsel from Mr. Klassen? Mr. Klassen built himself a claim, eying up those cash-handy pooling accounts, because, after all, compared to the farmers, he was underpaid:

QUOTE
"At the date of termination, the plaintiff's gross annual salary was approximately $141,100.00. When all taxable employment benefits are added to this sum, his total employment income was $186,996.00 in 1998. This income included the taxable cost of excess life insurance provided by his employer and the taxable benefit associated with an automobile also supplied by his employer. On December 29, 1998, the plaintiff was paid a total of $352,079.36 before deductions. This payment included inter alia, a sum of $282,200.00 purporting to be a "Loss of Office Payment" (LOP), equivalent to two years' salary, pursuant to the Terms as acknowledged in the release signed by the plaintiff."

UNQUOTE


Enough wasn't enough for Mr. Klassen, though. He went to court.

The pooling accounts have piles of waiting cash for severence pay for Mr. Measner et al. After all, single desk-
farmers don't demand more than the "highest price" they are already getting.

Some of the single-desk elected Directors need to recommend that Mr. Measner can probably look towards claiming 'stress leave' compensation as well. Maybe the CWB can tell the Minister to go to hell, again, and they can just access cash from a ripened Contingency Fund in addition to the pool accounts.


'Severence claim stress claim ' will maximize compensation-payout-package-profits for those overworked elites.

Dual compensation, so to speak.

Parsley

Keep working farm-boys, you've got some big bills to pay.

[JACKFLASH]

Mustardman:

I beg to differ on the handcuffs. In one case the RCMP went out to the farm, to serve the arrest warrent. The farmer in question begged them not to put the cuffs on in front of his wife and small children. Sorry they went on. Just because he sold his own grain.

[cropduster]

OOhh,now Jack......`they broke the law`,don`tcha know.It`s donkeys like the mustardman that ran Auschwitz too.Then after it was public they said`they sure didn`t mean it`.Sure wouldn`t want anyone a breakin` the law!!!

[mustardman]

Cropduster don't be lumping me in with Steve, Chuck and Davids group

[katoe]

Taxpayers should pay his severance .The feds are going to fire him not the farmer directors.

[TOM4CWB]

Mustardman,

Interesting you bring the points up about "maximising returns" "single desk" CWB "Monopoly".

I challenge you to find even ONE of these words in the CWB Act.

They are NOT there.

Section 32... is about us allowed to "offer" our grain...

Before 1993 the CWB "single desk" allowed those who needed to arbitage the world market with seed and ungraded feed grains the right to do so. Goodale put Customs recomendations in to stop growers at the border. "Instructions to the Trade" are for the CWB's agents... and should not apply to growers with their own produce... as this is "Agriculture"...

"Regulation of Trade and Commerce" which the CWB Act gets its authority from.

There is a massive hole and gap here... that even Goodale knows stinks!

Sorry Mustardman... the rip off Goodale started... isn't finished yet... and grain growers are the big loosers... not the trade, railways, unions, elevatior co's... Ports.... and on and on.

It is our loss... that the CWB can not be sanctioned and diciplined as it was before 1993.

[JACKFLASH]

To all on this thread:

Did anyone see the interview on CBC newsworld this afternoon.
First they interviewed Adrian Measoner,then Chuck Strahl.
What did you think?

[parsley]

JACKFLASH

CEO Measner left the public with the impression that the CWB is run by farmers and not the Government?minister.

He needs to read the Act that governs what he can and cannot do because Sections 3, 6 and 18 of the Canadian Wheat Board Act state:

Duty to comply

3.12 (2) The directors and officers of the Corporation shall comply with this Act, the regulations, the by-laws of the Corporation and any directions given to the Corporation under this Act.

6(1)(j) to act as agent for or on behalf of any minister or agent of Her Majesty in right of Canada in respect of any operations that it may be directed to carry out by the Governor in Council

Directions by Governor in Council

18. (1) The Governor in Council may, by order, direct the Corporation with respect to the manner in which any of its operations, powers and duties under this Act shall be conducted, exercised or performed.

Directors

(1.1) The directors shall cause the directions to be implemented.....


Mr.Measner and Mr, Ritter need to resign

Parsley

[carebear300]

Parsley, you are amazing!!!!!!!! How do you make time to do all your research? This bit of information should be required reading for every grain farmer. Tnanks again from a contankeroous old farmer from Sask.

[parsley]

carebear300,

Farmers often cannot depend upon the elites whom we have traditionally relied upon, to give us accurate information, because they have shown they are more often interested in THE earnings than MY earnings.

If there is anything I have learned about farming, it is "read it for yourself".

If Mr. Measner didn't read the Act, he should be fired, for incompetence.

If he did read the Act, and he goes on national television claiming the CWB is run by Directors, he should be fired for misleading the public.

So a farmer should be asking, why would Mr. Measner go to all the trouble of making himself look like a victim?

Keep in mind carebear, your contingency purse is stuffed full of YOUR hard-earned money.

Why do you think he did not reflect what the Act states?

Parsley

[craig]

I think it needs to be said that we must read for ourselves but we must also try to read between the lines. Like many things the CWB does there statements are worded to imply rather than to state reality. For example the comments regarding the concern of current grain buyers and ability to do business. Has the concern really come from the buyers or does the board employ the same scare tactics it uses at home to stir the pot.Time and time again comments made by the board, it's directors and it's staff give stretching the truth new meaning.