Marketing Recomedations for 2007-08

[BennyHin]

Tom, Snappy, Silverback and Saskfarmer3:

Can you guys give us marketing recommendations on a weekly basis for milling wheat and Canadian red winter wheat, and feed barley for the upcoming year? I'd like to then review your recommendations on July 31, 2008 to see how you did?

Regards.

[TOM4CWB]

BennyHin,

My marketing recomendation for these crops is THIS:

Each grower of each crop needs the right and the opportunity to have as close a personal relationship with the end user of their choice AS POSSIBLE and PRACTICAL...

Further that the co-operative spirit to support each other to maximise the value of the products both the producer grows and end user processes to attain the highest value and best economic return for both partners.

Risk management should be the resonsibility of the partner who is best skilled and willing to take on this responsibility... and they should be rewarded fairly for this skill, risk/responsibility value.

AS these kinds of relationships will mean as many different contracts, prices, responsibilities,intrinsic value, products, and volitility/time value componenets: as there are partners, people, and co-operators... I would expect complete flexibility to encourage and accomodate these opportunities... without taxes being syphoned off to the CWB pool accounts that kill these projects!

I would expect each partner to negotiate in good faith the opportunity that fits their risk reward capacity... sharing the prosperity with their community of the blessings of having food and energy to sell and buy!

1. That the CWB would allow, as the AUSIES have... DIrect contracting @$3.75/TCDN between Endusers and Growers:

2. That the CWB provide a 5 year opt out option for growers who sign out of the CWB system with no-cost export licenses as are given to Manufactured Feed User Export Exemption Licneses and Seed Export Licenses now;

3. That the CWB allow new generation co-operatives the right and opportunity to grow, process and sell their products globally with the help and blessing of the CWB sales and licensing dept.

BennyHin... If we do this our grain economy in the "designated area" will prosper... as will the CWB!

These are my recomendations for 2007-08!
God Bless Canada!

[wilagro]

Tom: That is a lot of Gobbledy Gook.

Personal relationship indeed. I just want to sell my grain and get paid. Let the CWB do this selling, they have experience and the know-how. I'll just grow the grain.

[wilagro]

Benny, I would be more than happy to give my recomendations to July/08. Those recomendations are my personal opinion.

The next 4-5 crops we grow up Wheat&Barley will be the best money the U.S.,Australia etc, will ever have seen. Unfourtunetly we Canadians will be sucking hind leg due to our CWB.

Question to you Benny. Ask Wheat growers in Ontario if they want to join our CWB??

Wilagro, you grow the grain, and let the CWB market it for you. Sorry to say you won't exist long.

Question to both of you guys what grains have been dragging your farm down the last 10 years?? Hmmm... was it canola,oats,feed barley,feed wheat,peas...nope it's been MAlT BARLEY, AND HRSW. Just who is that does that marketing for us again???

[TOM4CWB]

Wilagro,

If you don't NEED any more services than the CWB offers... and you believe a fair price is being offered... by all means make the CWB your marketing partner!

Some of your neighbours need different marketing options... would you intentionally prevent them from working hard and trying to create value for their family and farm?

[wedino]

Wilagro "I just want to sell my grain and get paid. Let the CWB do this selling, they have experience and the know-how. I'll just grow the grain.

No one's taking the cwb away from you!! It'll always be yours to support if you so wish.

[wilagro]

wedino: Then why the recommendation of the "new" CWB2 which will NOT be the same as the present CWB?

The "new" entity would be an entirely new concept, untried, and unwanted actually.

Let's not kid ourselves, the group that Strahl picked to advise him were totally viciously anti-CWB. They stuck the knife into the CWB and then gave a twist to make sure that it would hopefully die.

[AdamSmith]

Wilagro, In your opinion,

What features must the cwb have in order to continue to exist as a viable marketing option within a voluntary context?

Keep in mind that the cwb would be operating in a commpetitive system?


Once upon a time this question could always be ignored. In fact, right up through the task force process, the cwb and the left deliberatly chose to ignore this question. The only thing they still wanted to do, was to debate the merits of the single desk.

If you guys don't like cwbtwo, let's see your version.

And please be realistic and not include a 1.5 billion dollar gift from the taxpayers.

By the way one of the biggest reasons why Measner got canned was because under his leadership the cwb refused to offer any proposal for operating without the monopoly.

It's comming down to crunch time and unless there is something, anything, semi-reasonable coming from the other side CWBII will become reality, the politics will sort themselves out and it will happen.

So to end where I began, what features are needed or desired?

[silverback]

Benny,

Sell it all to the CWB and sleep in peace knowing that someone else is taking care of you and your family.

[mustardman]

Snappy, using fieldmaster program to keep track of inputs, these are the top crops in my area for last 4 years.
Net Dollars per acre.
2003 #1 Yellow Mustard
#2 Durum
#3 kabuli chickpeas
#4 canary seed
#5 yellow peas

2004 #1 green lentils
#2 yellow peas
#3 Durum
#4 Yellow mustard
#5 canary

2005 #1 kabuli chickpeas
#2 yellow peas
#3 green lentils
#4 Durum"
#5 canola
#6 Flax

2006 SEVERE DROUGHT
#1 desi chickpea $150 net per ac.
#2 kabuli " $12 net "" "
#3 durum - $15 net " "
#4 y. peas - $16 net " "
#5 hrsw - $17 net " "
#6 green lentil - $30 net " "
#7 y. mustard - $35 net " "
#8 canola - $46 net " "

*note the #3 to #8 are Negatives/acre

Note also that a CWB crop has placed in the top 4 every year.
So read the facts or keep spreading the fiction its up to you Snapppy.

[TOM4CWB]

BennyHin, Mustardman, and Wilagro;

Will CWB "single desk" supporters take responsibility for forcing my wheat & Barley through their "single desk" and cut my family a cheque when the CWB messes up marketing and wrecks not just wheat and barley... but Canola and special crops as well?

If not, WHY NOT?

I note the following "single desk" supporters believe the following:

a) that the CWB is smart enough to know the future... that the future grain market can be predicted and manipulated... therefore a higher price can be attained by price discrimination and manipulation.

b) that the CWB has the right under the CWB Act to forward sell grain that hasn't been contracted to the CWB... or that has not even been grown, contracted, or priced by the grower through the CWB yet.

c) That the CWB has the right under the CWB Act to refuse the sale of grain that there is system capacity to get to market in an efficient manner... to manipulate and or distort global grain prices.

Since these assumptions are the base of "single desk" premiums... they must be compensated for when mismanaged!

It is not IF, but WHEN the CWB messes up our wheat and barley markets...

Which in turn forces selling and marketing decisions in non-board crops that would have been avoided had the CWB marketed in a manner that did maximise our returns...

ARE "SIngle DEsk" supporters going to cut my farm and family a cheque?

You need to compensate us for losses imposed upon us by your decision to force us into your back pocket.

2006-07 To start with; the excess $40/t cost of getting to the world market.

$100,000.00 would be a conservative small down payment... if the market does not rise! If the market rises... $500,000.00 will be closer. If the market drops... "single desk" market intelegence predicted this and it is my families rightful benefit.

It appears the CWB has already locked in lower prices... as when world top grade milling prices ended higher on the west coast over the past month... the CWB still lowered the PRO, and malt barley only went up $2/t when the Ausie PRO went up $8/t and was $70/t higher in the first place!

DO you folks think you can afford to make these decisions for my family and myself?

By the way....wh

[TOM4CWB]

Mustardman, those numbers are real good. Just think Durum would be #1 on your list if you could market it yourself!!!