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IS THERE A DUAL MARKET IN CANADA WITH CWB BLESSING?

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    IS THERE A DUAL MARKET IN CANADA WITH CWB BLESSING?

    What does the CWB allow Ontario to do with it's wheat?

    Ontario’s dual wheat market
    http://www.agri-ville.com/cgi-bin/content/view.pl?ID=979059008

    “One of the initiatives that came out of Alberta's Ag Summit 2000 process was to “introduce a direct marketing option similar to the Ontario Wheat Board”.”

    “Ontario wheat farmers have several choices: cash price upon delivery, forward price contracts, minimum price contracts, basis pricing contracts, pooling and direct marketing.”

    “In 1999 the OWPMB received permission from the Ontario Farm Products Marketing Commission to have a limited size dual (or voluntary) market. Up to 150,000 t/year of wheat may be sold by producers directly to domestic and US buyers (about 16 percent of what the OWPMB handles).”

    As a “designated area” grain producer I am very happy Ontario has successfully created a Wheat Board that actually competes for their grain producer’s grain, and operates as a dual market!

    I am encouraged that the OWPMB did not have to get permission from the CWB to enter into this dual market, which proves Western Canadians legally have the right to direct market outside the elevator system.

    You ask why?

    Part IV of the CWB Act, and Section 14 of the CWB Regulations, which are authorized by Part IV, equally apply to Alberta, Ontario, and all of Canada.

    The CWB has admitted to the Organic Growers that neither grain volume nor grain prices are restricting factors when the CWB issues Export Licenses. The Ontario dual marketing program backs this legal interpretation up and sets persistent that this is correct.

    The Ontario CWB Licenses further confirm that the prices inside and outside Canada are the same.

    Why?

    The CWB would be obligated to charge fees on Ontario wheat producer’s direct marketing program, in order for these grain producers to get their Export Licenses from the CWB. No fees are ever charged pursuant to Section 14 of the CWB Regulations. NAFTA also makes charging these fees for an export license illegal.

    If a “designated area” grain producer chooses not to use the Canadian Grain handling or Grading system, then just like Ontario grain, this grain from inside the CWB “designated area” will not directly compete or interfere with CWB sales.

    WHY?

    The more western Canadian grain is marketed outside the Canadian system, the less supply the CWB has to sell, and therefore the more money the CWB can extract for the remaining grain going through single desk! The CWB can concentrate on the high price high return markets it so adamantly claims it extracts premiums from.

    Now all aspects of Section 14 of the CWB Regulations have been covered off.

    The only way a “designated area” grain producer can access the CWB marketing system is to “offer” his wheat or barley pursuant to Section 32 of the CWB Act at an elevator or other place specified by the CWB. This offering is the only way the CWB legally can buy wheat or barley in Canada from grain producers.

    Now, what right does the CWB have to refuse a “direct marketing export license” to the grain producer from inside the CWB “designated area”, who chooses not to offer his grain to the CWB, but instead chooses to market outside the Canadian system and the CWB?

    Ontario wheat producers can sell Grandin Wheat direct to the USA, in direct competition with the CWB Single Desk Monopoly. Why?

    Why do Western Canadian grain farmers get refused no-cost export licenses on Grandin, when the CWB cannot even market this milling wheat?

    #2
    Tom $CWB, it would be beneficial to Designated Area producers to have someone from Ontario Wheat Marketing P Board to speak to us about the exemption part of their board, and how it operates technically, don't you think? A majority of producers in the DA would be keenly interested. Could we dialogue on an action plan?

    The way that the CWB operates must change or the CWB will become irrelevant Much information that has given out by the CWB to producers, has not been credible: thus, they have lost their followers in evergrowing numbers in a one-way trend........away from the CWB They will completely lose their authority unless there is an alternate marketing avenue available.

    Parsley

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      #3
      I understand that Mr. Ken Nixon who has been extensively involved in recreating the Ontario Wheat Board will be in Red Deer on March 5th 2001, at the Red Deer Lodge at 6:00pm.

      This should be a good meeting with an open dialoge about dual marketing and the types of options the CWB could create and facilitate for us and our customers in the future.

      Too bad the CWB is so opposed to this meeting, Jim Chatenay is really trying to be fair and give both sides of these issues!

      Shouldn't the CWB welcome this kind of dialogue?

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        #4
        Why is the CWB opposed to what producers ask for? After all, they say they are there to serve the farm community, to market for the producer. We are all interested in functionality. Andthey should realize that if they cannot give good service for the money, they will be quickly replaced. Information is crucial these days.

        But....Accurate information, not the kind that the CWB gave to the organic growers. The CWB must be held to account for what they told the organic boys....that the CWB couldn't issue export licenses unless there was a change in legislation. The kind of staff you want marketing for you? No no

        Somebody in the CWB has to take responsibility for that, you'd think the Board of Directors would be uncomfortable with it, especially when they've been preaching about their Code of Conduct! Tom 4CWB, the Ontario talk might shape them up in the CWB! Good for Chatney.
        Parsley

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          #5
          Would it be beneficial to Designated Area producers to have someone from the Ontario Wheat Marketing P Board to be a guest moderator on Agri-ville so that we could ask questions?
          Parsley

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            #6
            Parsley,

            When I talk to Mr. Ken Nixon on Monday I will see if we can get this to happen.

            This would really be interesting, wouldn't it?

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              #7
              Dear Administraters of Agri-ville:

              Would you be willing to allow and facilitate an Ontario Wheat Board's spokesperson to be a moderator in the Commodity Marketing Forum for a month?

              Thanks,
              Parsley

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                #8
                Parsley,

                I really think the Ontario Board folks are bothered by all the disruption and chaos out here.

                They could even be justified in thinking that they might get sucked into the CWB black hole!

                I seriously doubt that anyone in their right mind would step into the middle of this mess, you know, they might get dragged in!

                Ontario claims their exemption program is not "dual marketing" and that is fine with me.

                Whatever anyone wants to call respect and freedom, I can smell it 100 miles away. The CWB is good at developing our noses, we can now smell deception and... before they even happen, you know that intuition stuff!

                The good part is, the more we use these unusual senses, the better we become at using them!

                Am I crazy?

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