FNA and Glyphosate

[lakenheath]

I realize this does not fit under commodity marketing, but it sure has me and some others quite fired up.

FNA has purchased all the Clear-Out 41 from the U.S. and charging us $4.25 per litre for the product. On a 2000 acre farm, an FNA member ship costs 43 cents an acre. People were buying Clear-Out 41 for $3.75 and acre last year. So NFA has hiked the price 50 cents and acre and to get a memebership (depending on farm size) will cost you even more.

I hope my calucations are correct. If they are....thanks a lot FNA! They are acting like just another chemical company.

Why would they buy up that much Clear-Out 41 when we as producer already have access to it. Makes absolutly no sense to me.

Please enlighten me someone.

[Lifer]

So they can make money.

[lakenheath]

Off the farmers back. They are supposed to be helping us.

[TOM4CWB]

lohner,

One must respectfully ask why we must grade or use CGC services... unless the end-use customer requests and needs them.

If growers need these services fine, they can request and pay for them.

Right now the CGC doesn't respect or serve either grower or end-user satisfactorly, and the CWB is the biggest hinderance in pushing for CGC reform.

About time we fixed this problem.

[peaqueen]

Smart Dude eh!

[uef]

Actually I bought ClearOut last year for $3.90 delivered(ordered it in January from FNA). Otherwise the cheapest I could find was $3.96 (plus some delivery charges). I did not price it all the way out because it was just not interesting.
Also you have to consider that under the OUI rules the users are required to recycle the containers. That costs money because you can't just bring it to the normal container recycling centres for free, because that service ist paid for by our "friends" from CropLife. This recycling fee is included in the FNA price. Is that recycling fee included if you buy direct in the US?

As for the membership fee: I don't know where you get your information from but two weeks ago a 1 year membership cost $535 or $0.27 pear acre for a 2000 Acre farm.

[lohner]

As I understand it end use customers require independant labs for certifying and testing

[craig]

While you need to concerned by increased cost being steamed without an explanation isn't productive. I paid $4.25 per litre for clearout last year through FNA. Maybe there is a different cost structure depending on where you live. best to call FNA for an explanation.I was at an FNA meeting yesterday and they are under pressure to get involved with more products and services. As you stated you could do all your own paperwork and go across the line to purchase your own. Your option if they get out of line. Don't forget that FNA is why the chemical is priced much lower than in past. Also don't forget FNA did all the work to contact producers to lobby government to keep the OUI program in place. They are working against high paid full time chemical company staff in Ottawa.

[SASKFARMER3]

Yea this constant hitting on FNA makes me wounder if your not a member of crop life?
Crop life is out to get FNA and put a stop to this cheap generic chemicals from getting into Canada. There not working for farmers that's the furthest from their mind.
They want to stop this loop hole fast because I believe 10 of our top chemicals pattens runs out in 08. And as far as bringing your own back from the US My price down their plus doing the paper work and getting it home is same as FNA or so close its not worth it. Also compare apples to apples lots of cheap clear-out 41 is available without the extra surfactant. Know what your buying.
And on the membership side get your facts strait its .27 an acre for 2000 or less.
Crop life Canada will win if farmers don't get the facts strait.

[Incognito]

"Crop life Canada will win if farmers don't get the facts strait"

The wheat board has used this tactic for 25 years and it has worked well for them.

[bgmb]

SF3 this is simple math and no more.
Last time we bought Clearout 41 plus (and yes this includes surfactant) from the US we picked up 2 275 gallon totes.
Which cost us a grand total of $6187.50 USD.
Or in todays dollars $7279 CDN for 2079 liters.
$3.50/liter CDN.
(picked up just over the line).
Yeah i had to do a bit more paperwork and spend half a day driving to pick it up but I saved $2079 and a membership in FNA.
This time I am looking for a higher quantity and i have been quoted a lower price so i will save even more.

I commend the efforts of FNA for getting this program rolling but if their program isn't competitive then i won't use it!

[SASKFARMER3]

THen you may as well share where you can get it from with me because if you can get it for 3.50 canadian a liter I need 10,000. liters or 88 barrols of the stuff.
So $35,000.00 vs $42,500.00 is a $7,500.00 saving to me and Ill still give FNA my $182.00 for my membership and thank them for bringing it to canada.

[SASKFARMER3]

Just phoned my guy can get a generic plus for 3.37 Canadian a liter delivered to williston ND. Oh what a glorious day.

[TOM4CWB]

ChuckChuck and Agstar77;

This must bring tears to your eyes!

A DUAL MARKET that works!

The big BOYS don't like it... but guess what!
They are still in business... making great profits... lots of growers buy from them too... sometimes at even twice the cost!

The law of one price sure works well here... doesn't it! LOL.

THis is exactly the way it was with the CWB before 1993... when the CWB kept their nose clean and left growers alone who were marketing and exporting only their own grain.

THe CWB is breaking the law... the common law of common courtesy and integrety... to respect others and their right to:

Work Hard,
Take Risks,
And PROSPER... if they are so inclined!

It is great when we live in a free and democratic country... isn't it!

I will Pubically thank MP David Anderson for the many hours of work he did... and Minister Strahl did... and many other MP's took the time to do... to keep these options open!

God Bless Canada!

[poorboy]

Where do you go about finding the names of dealers in the US that will sell canadians clearout 41 plus?

I live in Southern Alberta and could use about 4000 liters. Is it hard to bring it across the border yourself, and can you do it now or do you have to wait until April?