You wake up on March 31 and ...

[charliep]

You wake up on March 31 (could be another day) and you hear the results of the BARLEY (no other crop) plebescite.

Scenario 1 - The plebescite indicates western Canadian farmers want to market their barley in a open market fully including domestic human consumption and export. I will let you determine whether with a CWB alternative or not. What will be different? What are you likely to do differently?

Scenario 2 - The plebescite indicates they want to keep single desk status for BARLEY (not wheat) domestic human consumption and exports. The federal government says they will respect this. What is the CWB likely to do differently? Keeping all the political/policy stuff on the side, what will you do differently on the acreage, agronomics, marketing and pricing side of the BARLEY (not wheat) side of your business?

[AdamSmith]

Great question Charlie.

I’ve considered this for my very own operation. Most years I have some barley (3 or 4 quarters) 2006 was the first year in five or six where I never grew any barley. Reality is that the only major impact of a change will be within the malting side of barley with I would say better opportunities and a much clearer picture of what malt is worth. On the feed side I don’t see much change between what we have now and the way things would be after a change (open market).

I have 3 quarters pegged to grow barley on in 2007. I’m looking at growing Metcalf because I like to straight cut it and this variety has done well for me in the past. But I farm in SW MB which is the prime geographical area for the brewing companies to source their 6-row from (Anheuser-Busch) and I know that the current system under values the real value of six row malt barley, so it is here where a new opportunity may arise but I’m not sure I’ll know for sure if six row or two row is going offer me the highest returns in 07. It is here where I guess I will have to make a best guess and just go with it as best I can.

Advantages of two row are pretty attractive already especially as feed, but if the malt thing works out six row might be best.

If things don’t change (market system wise) I won’t even consider malt (two row or six row) Won’t even submit a sample because I know the domestic feed market suits my needs the best, period.

[silverback]

Scenario 1 - Open a beer and have some popcorn to go with it.

Scenario 2 - If this were to happen, I am fairly confident that Alberta farmers would not have voted this way. That being the case, I would begin organizing my friends and neighbors to lobby the Ab. gov't to get us out from under CWB control.

I would hope we will see how each province votes.

[silverback]

Sorry Charlie,

Scenario 2 - No malt barley, feed barley as needed. CPS wheat and canola for cash flow needs.

[Braveheart]

Scenario 1: Go long western barley futures on the open. Place order to sell as soon as market surges because futures could fall once the realization that barley acres could increase sets in. Book vacation with speculating profits. Later that evening have several drinks and possibly dance jig.

I would then phone my preferred grain co's to see what real malt barley bids would be if the Minister goes with choice decision. But, because there would still be too much risk (ie. gov't falls early, CWB supporters launch court challenges, malting co's not prepared for a new reality, etc.) for this year I would stick to original plans of only barley for silage.

Scenario 2: The area we farm in would become bilingual . . . English and Profanity. But, I would just shrug it off and make contingency plans which would only include barley for silage.

[Braveheart]

Mid East? As in Algeria? Or are you making terrorist links?

I've got to hand it to Gordon. He knows how to be entitled to his entitlements.

[cottonpicken]

And in my humble opinion that ed white is a shmuck.

[parsley]

Interesting...seems difficult to find out anything about this company.

The phone is a 514
The fax is a 204

Nothing much on the web about Eagle Sterling Co. Limited except it is listed as an accredited agency.

Directors?
Incorporation?

Would it be in Iranian language, maybe?

Any ideas?

Parsley

[Braveheart]

No ideas. But I do think it sounds verrry suspicious? And, highly unethical for a former commissioner to now be an accredited agent? This just begs for an investigation.

[Braveheart]

Charlie good question.

On our farm we currently have 10 quarters undecided to malt barley, or feed. If senario one is happen all 10 will be into malt. If scenario 2 is to happen all 10 will be into feed barley.

I've heard many guys on this site say dual marketers do have a choice.... that choice being don't grow Board grains. Allthough I don't agree with that statement, it isn't fair I can't grow Wheat or Malt without selling it through the CWB. This being said I ask all the Dual Market supporters this... Despite the result of this Pleblicite the CWB has stated they cannot function properly in a Dual Market System. How will they function if they don't have our grain to market??? What I'm saying is this. For the first time on our farms history, a farm that traditionally grows 2000 acres of Wheat/year, we will not be growing a acre, and if Malt Barley stays on with the Board, we won't grow any.

We have the power to squeeze them out.

Control Your Own Destiny, Or Someone Else Will!!

[parsley]

EAGLE STERLING COMPANY LIMITED
Contact: Mr. Gordon Machej

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Iriana Resources Corporation operates the Greer Lake tantalum-lithium-cesium property, located 13 kilometers SE of the Tanco mine in SE Manitoba.



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Gold mine output was 124,596 kg, up from 86,927 in 1997. Because of political uncertainty and illegal mining, Aurora Gold Ltd., of Australia, the largest gold producer in Indonesia, with annual capacity of 60 tons, decided to sell its 85% share in the Toka Tindung project, North Sulawesi, where it had discovered an indicated and inferred resource of 15.4 million tons of ore averaging 3 grams per ton of gold and 8 grams per ton of silver. Another Aurora prospect, Talawaan, had been heavily contaminated with mercury used by illegal miners. PT Newmont Pacific Nusantara decided to close its Greenfield explorations in Indonesia because of confusion about legal mining regulation and investment policies; it would keep its projects in North Sulawesi and West Nusa Tenggara operating. PT Newmont Minahasa Raya's Minahasa mine, on the northern tip of North Sulawesi, was forced to close several times in 2000 because of a continuing dispute with ex-landowners and a strike by mining contactors. In addition, the local government attempted to shut down the mine because of a dispute dealing with overburden tax compensation; the matter was settled out of court. Because of depletion of ore resources, Newmont Minahasa planned to cease operations at Minahasa in 2003. The company would not develop the nearby Lobongan gold deposit because of excessive illegal mining. Iriana Resources Corp., of Canada, announced that its Mafi gold exploration (Irian Jaya) had begun in 2000; initial assay samples contained 26.7 grams per ton of gold, 445 grams per ton of silver, and 10.4% lead, with possible occurrences of antimony and zinc in the area. Responding to demands of residents of Java and West Kalimantan, the Ministry of Energy and Mineral Resources (MEMR) ordered illegal gold miners to stop using mercury in their gold-processing activities, which had caused mercury levels in West Kalimantan rivers to be 10 times greater than the maximum allowed.
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Indonesia's constitution places all natural resources in the soil and waters under the jurisdiction of the state. In 1999, the government increased taxes and royalties that created a less competitive investment environment. Restructuring and privatization of state-owned industries has been very slow, and new investment was still low. As the world's fourth most populous country, Indonesia could become one of the largest steel-consuming countries. However, its volatile political situation and uncertain economic climate hampered development. The state-owned general mining company, PT Aneka Tambang, has gone public on the Jakarta Stock Exchange."


Braveheart, have you been to this mine in Manitoba?

Parsley

[charliep]

Just a note that I have a good working relationship with Western Producer reporters including Ed White. They listen, ask tough questions and 95 % or more reflect what I wanted to communicate. When there is miscommunication, I generally have to review what I said and look to make sure I wasn't a least partially responsible (communication is always a two way street).

Do I always agree with Western Producer approach? No but diversity is what makes the world go round. Farmers can read the information and come to their own conclusions. I note I subscribe to the WP with a view of understanding farm opinion.

[Braveheart]

Am I being punk'd? You must be joshing me Parsley. I've been through a most of SE MB and have never seen or heard of this mine. That said, anytime I had anything to do with Machej I felt I usually got the shaft.

[parsley]

charliep and cotttonpicken, even though I sometimes dislike like what they write, I appreciate that we have farm papers and farm writers. We don't want them exiting agriculture and writing about Brad Pitt et al.

Parsley

[BennyHin]

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