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    The CWB also believes it has a monopoly in wisdom and facts.

    Agricore, CWB spar over Canadian barley prices
    Fri Jan 26, 2007 3:09pm ET

    WINNIPEG, Manitoba, Jan 26 (Reuters) - Agricore United (AU.TO: Quote, Profile , Research), Canada's largest grain company, has begun posting its own international feed barley price for farmers -- a price that dwarfs current price signals from the Canadian Wheat Board.

    But the CWB, which has a monopoly on feed barley exports from Western Canada, said Agricore's spot price is unrealistic and misleading.

    On Thursday, Agricore's spot feed barley price was C$233.70 ($198) a tonne, basis Vancouver, 23 percent higher than the Canadian Wheat Board's projected pool return of C$190 a tonne, basis Vancouver.

    "Prices are going up, and that's one of the reasons why we felt that it was important to ensure farmers were aware of what the international prices were as they're making their (planting) decisions," said Cam Dahl, Agricore's government relations and policy development officer.

    The internally calculated price is somewhat theoretical, Dahl acknowledged, since farmers cannot sell their barley directly to Agricore for the export market.

    But he said the price reflects what Agricore could pay if the market were open.

    A spokeswoman for the CWB said Agricore's price seemed to reflect recent feed barley sales made into the Japanese market, where demand is limited.

    "You can quote any price you want, as long as you're not trading it," Maureen Fitzhenry said.

    "It's highly unlikely that a grain company would be paying that out to farmers: that would be implying that they're willing to take no margin whatsoever on that sale," she said.

    The CWB's projected return reflects sales the agency is making into the premium Japanese market, but also includes sales it expects to make into other lower-priced markets between Feb. 1 and July 31, Fitzhenry said.

    The CWB pools its sales, then returns the revenues to farmers, less expenses, at the end of the crop year. Once a month, it issues a pool return outlook to give farmers a sense of what they may receive at the end of the year.

    The Canadian government wants to end the CWB's barley monopoly, and will soon ask western Canadian farmers to cast their vote on whether to open up the market.

    Agriculture Minister Chuck Strahl announced the barley plebiscite details on Monday, the same day Agricore began posting its international barley price.

    Fitzhenry questioned Agricore's timing, but Dahl said it was coincidental.

    "There wasn't any intent on having any effect on how people vote in the plebiscite," he said.

    Farmers who are delegates to Agricore's annual policy-setting sessions support opening up the market, Dahl said, but the company has not taken a position on the barley vote and will not campaign to influence farmers' votes.

    The Canadian Wheat Board is one of the world's largest grain marketers, but feed barley accounted for less than 500,000 tonnes of the total 19.4 million tonnes of grain it handled in the year ended July 31, 2005.

    Farmers sell most of their barley directly to the domestic livestock market.

    Domestic barley prices have also been strong. The equivalent domestic price, basis Vancouver, would have been in the range of C$200 a tonne on Thursday, Dahl said.

    Prices for most grains and oilseeds have rallied because of strong world demand for biofuels.

    #2
    Who else noticed this gem from the department of misinformation,

    "You can quote any price you want, as long as you're not trading it," Maureen Fitzhenry said.

    Now isn't that exactly what the Gritz and Schmay study did? And every other study the cwb has commisioned?

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      #3
      Good point AS, I just enjoyed reading a new website with a pair of young pups writing on it.
      http://designatedarea.blogspot.com/2007/01/debunking-junk-economics.html

      Our next Generation farmers say, "Show me the money". Agri-core just did. Good for both of them! At least Agri-core is smart enough to realize that without farmers, there are no annual salaries:


      "The average annual salaries for employees of the Grain and Oilseed Milling industry group rose from $43,694 in 1994 to $44,734 in 2003, or at 0.3% per annum. There was an increase of 1.2% over the 2002-2003 period."

      Parsley

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        #4
        Curious enough there was the $3/bu CWB feed barley program (offered through on company) which included a 100 % EPO last fall in Alberta. Activity was for Japanese business.

        It would appear that won't happen on the B pool.

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          #5
          Malt price (European/Creil, France) - Euro $222.50 or Cdn $330 to $335/tonne.

          Minneapolis malt barley (Metcalf equivalent) - US $5/bu or about Cdn $270/tonne.

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            #6
            More useless information. Japan imports anywhere from 1.4 to 1.6 MMT barley every year. Page 35 CWB 2004-05 Statistical Tables. Aussie drought. Customer who needs 25,000 tonnes cargo ship of feed barley every week (just in time shipping).

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              #7
              I was just a Farm credit Canada agrisuccess seminar with Brenda Tjaden Lepp she had a interest cost calculator of leaving your money in pooling accounts this also works for deciding on premiums for IP contracts eg warburtons ,IMC, Nexera
              these #'s would make your head spin and not just because it's math.
              The Calculator is what she did her Masters thesis on and was defended at U of M.
              Ambitious reporters sould give her a call and get out the facts from a real economist!

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                #8
                I wonder how all this looks to our customers. Canada have a customer with a long standing relationship based on good service/quality (Japan). They are looking for significant quantities of barley (25,000 tonnes a week plus) in a year of extremely tight world supplies. You need the barley and are offering an extremely high price relative to history. Everything in life is negotiable including the price you will have to pay - again, you need the barley.

                The organization that has exclusive jurisdiction over Canadian barley sales cannot put this price signal through to farmers to get a deliver commitment/volumes in port position to ship. You have business relationships with Canadian grain companies on canola but their hands are tied by the system. After this, why would you do business in Canada in upcoming years? Does Canada jeopardize their relationship on other commodities (wheat and canola)?

                These same exporters likely read Canadian farm press. They know there is a barley plebescite on how it will be marketed but the word barley or addressing issues around pricing/meeting customer needs are nevered mentioned. Instead, eveyone is arguing over the questions or over the single desk structure/politics (99 % of which only applies to wheat).

                For all people who are going to vote status quo on barley, you should be measuring bins and contracting every kernel into the "B" feed barley pool. To vote for single on the plebescite and sell feed barley domestically is at best hypocritical.

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                  #9
                  Right-on Charlie
                  I have long wondered at the hypocrisy of these CWB supporters that grow malt bly then when it doesn't get accepted they want to sell it into the livestock industry instead of the feed bly pool of their beloved CWB. The same thng for wheat that has a bit of weathering. Like they believe that they can be only a little bit pregnant!

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