Strahl Order In Council

[parsley]

Good Morning, agstar,

Your problem is the CWB is a Government agency. Each area has it's boundaries and line of authority. The staff has parameters, as does appointed/elected BOD's as well as the Minister.

You seem to resent ministerial authority, but that is what a legislated wheat and barley agency yields, moan, moan, and yet, agstar, you court more government.

Do you have one of those self-inflicting back whips? Forget I asked.

The CWB still cheers for Minister Goodale when he snig-piggled regulations through Order in Council..cheering is the elected B od D's only function when it comes to final say, and Order in Council was his. Flexibility? Well, Goodale could have chosen a Monday or a Tuesday.

I would say that style certainly enhances theatrics, though.

For example, Minister Goodale snapped the Crow's benefit wing, wielding his swift Government arm, leaving farmers zero time to gab,and only to gasp. Done!

Strahl will continue consulting so long, that even the leftiest and the testiest will have formed an alliance to export the resulting bagged shredded-paper bales manufactured for bedding moas in New Zealand, funded under a yet to be developed Asia Pacific 'Food for Moas" program.

You love Government. You've got Government. Enjoy.

Parsley

[Vader]

CWB Act says different parsley

4.(2) The Corporation is not an agent of Her Majesty and is not a Crown
corporation within the meaning of the Financial Administration Act.

[Vader]

The CWB Act also says regarding the remuneration of the president:

3.09(2)(b) the board has fixed the remuneration to be paid to the president and has informed the Minister of the remuneration.

One would hope that in Canada, Ministerial discretion would not allow the government to circumvent the law!

[wedino]

Evader, And next paragraph:
Section 3.09 (3)
Notwithstanding the other provisions of this section, the Governor in Council may appoint a transitional president and fix the remuneration to be paid to him or her.

[wedino]

So Vader, How exactly is the gov't circumventing the law?

[wedino]

Vader, You should read this:

Directions by Governor in Council

Directions to the Corporation

18. (1) The Governor in Council may, by order, direct the Corporation with respect to the manner in which any of its operations, powers and duties under this Act shall be conducted, exercised or performed.

Directors
(1.1) The directors shall cause the directions to be implemented and, in so far as they act in accordance with section 3.12, they are not accountable for any consequences arising from the implementation of the directions.

Best interests
(1.2) Compliance by the Corporation with directions is deemed to be in the best interests of the Corporation.

Purchase of wheat only
(2) Except as directed by the Governor in Council, the Corporation shall not buy grain other than wheat.

R.S., 1985, c. C-24, s. 18; 1998, c. 17, ss. 10, 28(E).

[Vader]

wedino - the transitional president was appointed in 1998 for a short term. That was the only time frame in which a transitional president could exist. That was the only time frame in which the government had the power to unilaterally set the remuneration of the president. For the government to set the remuneration of the president now without consulting the board of directors is breaking the law and any order designed to break the law cannot be enforced.

[JACKFLASH]

Maybe we should have a plebescite on whether Arnason gets paid out of the pool account. The board of directors are supposed to represent the farmers. You boys quit having your hissy fit, and move on. Pay the man.

[wedino]

Vader, That's not the way I read it, but then you're entitled to your opinion.

[wedino]

Vader, Your read of the act reminds me of your pre cwb director days. What became of the lawsuits you filed against the cwb?

[Incognito]

How many in-house lawyers does the CWB have? How many staff in the CWB legal department?

Is this being handled in-house or is the CWB padding some eastern Liberal law firm again with farmer's wheat and barley money?

[catchmeifyoucan]

I presume it is the left half of the board voting agianst the motion to pay Mr Arason.Exactly how many lawyers agree with your position and how much is it going to cost the grian growers of western canada? Agstarr77 you seem quite informed please tell us these numbers.We have great opportunities and changes ahead of us lets work together to move forward in a positive and productive way

[parsley]

Vader, vader, vader, the Government in the past, has stopped an entire sale of grain to Russia, SCREECH, and meantime back in the strawberry patch, you're having a leftless vision, dreaming that your Minister cannot order you to pay the CEO? Wow. You need to re-write that paper called, "Parliamentary Orders are a Hoax".

You better learn to pick raspberries with just_wondering 'cause you just might get one from your boss.

In the meantime, the Designated Single-Gangsters will keep bleeding the pooling accounts to pay national licensing costs even though Part IV says that National Part IV expenses are to be paid from Part III by Prairie farmers.

Talk about ignoring their own Act! You should really read it through, Vader, again. You could confidently quote it verbatim at one time, and now it seems a bit fuzzy for you.

Section 7. CWB Act

(3) Losses sustained by the Corporation
(a) from its operations under Part III in relation to any pool period fixed thereunder, during that pool period, or
(b) from its other operations under this Act during any crop year,
for which no provision is made in any other Part, shall be paid out of moneys provided by Parliament.
R.S., 1985, c. C-24, s. 7; 1998, c. 17, s. 28(E).

Access to Information shows that:

1. Section 7 was put into the Act in 1947, at the same time as Part IV was.


BTW: Same Access to Information papers show that the Government called Part IV a national tariff, not a regional buyback.

Parsley

[parsley]

CORRECTION
WRONG "Part IV says that National Part IV expenses are to be paid from Part III by Prairie farmers."

RIGHT Part IV says that National Part IV expenses are to be paid by the Federal Government, NOT from Part III by Prairie farmers."