Glyphosate market drying up

[Guest]

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[Guest]

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[foragefarmer]

Wrong. The focus should be on education about nutrition, transparency on food labels, govt regulations that aren't controlled by big pharma.
After that you have free will. No one is shoving coke down people's throats.
You make it sound like people catch obesity from a toilet seat. Doctors are salesmen like agronomists. You have a health issue or a weed,insect, fungus, here's a script. There's no money in healthy people.
Bayer is a pharmaceutical, they bought monsanto to guarantee themselves drug sales. It's a business model, that's it. The doctors are looking forward to the burden. Its not a healthcare system. It's a sickcare system.

I was simply pointing out the facts that because of sugar, obesity is the greatest health risk to CANADIANS.

Glyphosate is your personal crusade.

[AlbertaFarmer5]

Gabe has done some amazing things with his multi species grazing crops and being able to give up most fertilizers and chemicals while having the time to speak all over the world. I don’t have any qualms with his claims of supercharging the biological activity of the land and zero tilling into a thick mulch. We would all want to achieve something similar.

The trick is of course, to have that thick mulch and organic matter to start with. Not all soils are created the same, or maintained the same
There have been many attempts at no till out here in the grey wooded soil zone into worn out bald pasture land or revitalizing completely unproductive pasture land with intensive grazing.

It's a real uphill battle when starting from zero. No nutrients, no OM, no surface litter, hard as concrete. Almost without exception, any attempts at regenerative ag from this starting point have been failures. Perhaps it is related to the fact that it is often a last ditch effort from a farm which can't afford to make any other improvements after a long downward spiral. Intensive grazing seemed to be the last stop on that train.

There is land in this area with deep black soil, with lots of OM, and which has been fertilized somewhat in the past few decades, where these ideas can and do actually work. But typically, those aren't the farms who resort to this, because they are productive and profitable to start with.

But the idea that you can grow enough surplus forage on abused land to build organic matter without massive inputs (and those inputs don't need to be commercial fertilizer, manure is far better and works faster) at the beginning is a mathematical impossibility. At least on the scale of a human lifetime. It takes a lot of years of intensive grazing 2" tall wild strawberries surrounded by barren soil to build the level of OM required to for these systems to work.

I am making no till work, but the inputs required in the first years are scary, not something that can be in any way called organic.

[Guest]

I was simply pointing out the facts that because of sugar, obesity is the greatest health risk to CANADIANS.

Glyphosate is your personal crusade.

Hmmm, you better campaign to stop all photosynthesis then. Photosynthesis yields C6 H12 O6 (sugar). Guaranteed there won't be any obesity as a result.
Greatest health risk to all is soil degradation. Glyphosate compromises many key soil health parameters, as does many other chemical pesticides in the blind race to overproduce nutrient deficient commodities.
CANADIANS have a choice like everyone else. Stop stuffing your face with sugar, especially chem residue laced simple sugars.

[Guest]

I will never till again, if I have to , I will call er a day . I don’t ever wanna see my land blow again , so bad you need a compass to get to the road

[ColevilleH2S]

Less tillage, less herbicide. Thank you glyphosate

[Sodbuster]

Less tillage, less herbicide. Thank you glyphosate

Less emissions, less labour a win for everyone.

[Guest]

Less tillage, less herbicide. Thank you glyphosate

That was the case initially years ago when glyphosate used to work. Reality is they might as well leave it out of the program now. Resistant weeds like kochia, palmer amaranth, waterhemp, and als inhibitor resistant grasses to name a few, means the growers now need to use treflan also as a preemergent interrow once the beets are established. That means tillage. The other chemistry on the tailgate is also being used despite roundup ready technology. Truvera is a triple stacked beet variety which means you now can spray liberty and dicamba as well. The treadmill is going faster.
More tillage, more herbicides, more emissions, more labour, more expense, it's called the moron approach.
THANK YOU GLYPHOSATE
Just a matter of time before beets are 5 way stacked like corn and soy but it won't matter because some weeds are already resistant to 7 or more herbicide modes of action.

[ColevilleH2S]

Glyphosate has slowed the development of herbicide resistant weeds. And reduced the use of older more toxic herbicide chemistries.

[Guest]

Glyphosate has slowed the development of herbicide resistant weeds. And reduced the use of older more toxic herbicide chemistries.

No longer true today. Your bar graphs are over 10 years old and don't reflect the current failures in the chemical experiment. Other strategies such as tillage are being encouraged even by the makers of glyphosate, that's how sad and desperate the situation is. Older more toxic chemistry? Paraquat use is on the rise in the countries that haven't banned it.

[ColevilleH2S]

If your stats are accurate, global pesticide use (herbicide, insecticide, fungicide, etc) has gone up 25% since the year 2000. At the same time total food production has outpaced that figure by 2X. So less pesticide use per kg of food produced.

Quite the accomplishment