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    #31
    Happen every time. As soon as foodstuffs become plentiful, areas that don't need to use pre harvest try and make it an issue for marketing purposes. Then when shortages come it totally disappears as an issue. I don't use it on every field but do some acres that need it badly every year so it is a great agronomic tool and one that my farm can't do without. In one of your posts Austranada you mentioned that in the wet harvest of 21-22 pre harvest gly was used extensively in Oz but now that your back to typical harvest conditions you don't need it. There is your clue.

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      #32
      I am pleased that glyphosate prices have come back down to a decent price. Under $5 per litre, more than a 50 percent fall from the highs last year. Regarding the OP post, we hardly ever use pre harvest on wheat and then only if there is a real bad weed problem. Its been a open fall and with the fall moisture its been a great fall spraying opportunity. A good glyphosate spraying job in the fall after harvest pays dividends next year with cleaner crops and less need for in-crop herbicides. Who remembers fighting Quack grass? It has been a lot of year since the last time I saw it in crop land on our farm.

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        #33
        That’s a good price, I haven’t seen that low, is that for a full truckload to get that pricing?

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          #34
          Been years since I sprayed stubble, seems like even a decent harvest weathers in early.

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            #35
            Originally posted by Taiga View Post
            That’s a good price, I haven’t seen that low, is that for a full truckload to get that pricing?
            Do you guys have access this formulation
            [url]https://www.arborgreen.com.au/product/3800-nufarm-crucial-600g-l-glyphosate-20l[/url]
            Or put it this way, what's the strongest formulation you can get other than dry granular?
            Last edited by Guest; Nov 20, 2023, 20:14.

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              #36
              Originally posted by jamesb View Post
              I am pleased that glyphosate prices have come back down to a decent price. Under $5 per litre, more than a 50 percent fall from the highs last year. Regarding the OP post, we hardly ever use pre harvest on wheat and then only if there is a real bad weed problem. It’s been an open fall and with the fall moisture its been a great fall spraying opportunity. A good glyphosate spraying job in the fall after harvest pays dividends next year with cleaner crops and less need for in-crop herbicides. Who remembers fighting Quack grass? It has been a lot of year since the last time I saw it in crop land on our farm.
              Are you talking 360 gram/liter or liter REL.?
              haven’t saw anything less than $5.95/lt for 540?

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                #37
                Originally posted by Austranada View Post

                Do you guys have access this formulation
                [url]https://www.arborgreen.com.au/product/3800-nufarm-crucial-600g-l-glyphosate-20l[/url]
                Or put it this way, what's the strongest formulation you can get other than dry granular?
                I have never seen 600, 540 is common, I think there is a 720 out there somewhere. Nufarm is sold here though.

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                  #38
                  Data interoperability

                  Fancy word for "thanks for giving us your data for free, now we can better market our poisons to you"

                  [url]https://www.globalagtechinitiative.com/digital-farming/bayer-collaboration-with-microsoft-connects-farm-data-to-address-lack-of-data-interoperability/[/url]

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by ajl View Post
                    Happen every time. As soon as foodstuffs become plentiful, areas that don't need to use pre harvest try and make it an issue for marketing purposes. Then when shortages come it totally disappears as an issue. I don't use it on every field but do some acres that need it badly every year so it is a great agronomic tool and one that my farm can't do without. In one of your posts Austranada you mentioned that in the wet harvest of 21-22 pre harvest gly was used extensively in Oz but now that your back to typical harvest conditions you don't need it. There is your clue.
                    You may have misunderstood. Preharvest gly is not used extensively in Oz. I live here, I know.
                    [url]https://www.agriculturedive.com/news/bayer-braces-for-2b-loss-as-herbicide-sales-declines-glyphosate-roundup/689045/#:~:text=Bayer%20lowered%20its%202023%20outlook,bi[/url] llion%20and%20%2454.5%20billion%2C%20respectively.

                    Consider glyphosate residue free certification. Detox project initiative has traction. Consulting with manitoba farmers participating now for several years. Adding value to what they grow rather than shutting themselves out of certain markets.
                    ​​​​​​​[url]https://detoxproject.org/certification/glyphosate-residue-free/[/url]

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                      #40
                      We paid $5.50/L of 540 this fall.

                      Equates to $3.67L of 360 gram.

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                        #41
                        Originally posted by TASFarms View Post
                        I didn’t realize how hard herbicides were on my crop until this year. Checking brix thru the growing season. It didn’t look like it hurt the crop but the brix went down aways after herbicide application for a couple weeks
                        Interesting. I've tracked brix following N applications or worm teas or fish hydrolysate type solutions but never herbicides. Care to share your experience. Which crop etc
                        Last edited by Guest; Nov 23, 2023, 04:27.

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                          #42
                          Durum,lentils,canola,oats. Going to use a lot more compost extract this coming year. Started my compost pile for next years crop at the end of July. Hopefully it cuts the mustard if not I have a couple sources of high quality compost. Really thinking hard about using no chemicals or synthetic fertilizer where I’m going to produce feed stock for the next compost pile.

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                            #43
                            Health Canada has something to hide.
                            [url]https://www.miragenews.com/canadas-pest-agency-urged-to-end-secrecy-1131348/[/url]

                            Do you have a johnson SU reactor? Where do you get the feedstock for the compost now? Any chem residue will slow down the process of beneficial soil micro-organism multiplication. Like treflan takes out protozoans. Gly takes out bacillus amongst othe beneficial. This creates vacant ecological niches in the soil food web for different lengths of time. Some acid based ferts affect pH more than others and have high salt index also compromising remineralisation.
                            How do you rinse out or make your final liquid solution?

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                              #44
                              Like a Johnson Su but on bigger scale.Similar ingredients. Pigs in there to multiply and manage it until there is enough material there to windrow it and run a compost turner over it a dozen or more times.
                              Bio 5 compost extractor to put it liquid form. Putting some on seed,thru liquid cart on the drill and going to make atleast one foliar pass.

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                                #45
                                Durum East end of the ranges

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