Glyphosate market drying up

[ColevilleH2S]

Oh the good'ol days

[Guest]

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[Guest]

Oh the good'ol days

Image from 2014

[Guest]

Oh the good'ol days

You can't pull the wool over the eyes of today's informed consumer. That image from 2014 is representative of modern ag more and more. The annual survey in Iowa is very revealing when they asked about herbicide resistant weeds. 73% now use tillage because glyphosate is failing. Sure 30+ years ago it enabled no till or min till reducing erosion from conventionally farmed land which was tilled multiple times per year. Looks like the chemical experiment has run its course.
[url]https://www.farmforum.net/story/news/2023/12/07/farmers-concerned-about-herbicide-resistant-weeds/71817841007/[/url]

[ColevilleH2S]

Yes, you don't get to feed 8 billion people by farming with technology from the 1940s. Agricultural innovation, such as glyphosate has saved more lives than any Greenpeace campaign ever has.

Fun fact the anti-glyphosaters won't tell you: New herbicide resistant weeds were developing faster before glyphosate resistant crops were introduced, not after

[shtferbrains]

Looking at those beautiful,clean,fungus free stands your harvesting there it appears your in a different world.

[Guest]

Yes, you don't get to feed 8 billion people by farming with technology from the 1940s. Agricultural innovation, such as glyphosate has saved more lives than any Greenpeace campaign ever has.

Fun fact the anti-glyphosaters won't tell you: New herbicide resistant weeds were developing faster before glyphosate resistant crops were introduced, not after

That was ten years ago.

[Guest]

Do those houses look 10 years old to you?
the pic is from the dust bowl 30’s just copyrighted 10 years ago. The Simpson Sears house in the forefront kinda gives it away !

[furrowtickler]

Oh the good'ol days

Was that picture not in 1935 ?
Copyrighted in 2014

[shtferbrains]

My brother lived in Lethbridge in the 80's.
He dreaded the windy stretches in the spring as the sky would be black for days.

Special Areas in Alberta basically blew down to the hard pan in the 30's. 2.5 million acres.

Every field used to have an overgrown blow ridge in the fence line, even up here in the swamp.

Many now days have never experienced it.

Some forget.

[Guest]

We almost lost a quarter in the early eighties, took the shovels off for good after that .took years and alfalfa to get that quarter back right

[Guest]

That was ten years ago.

You were here in the 80’s when you worked for FCC, you woulda saw it too . Eighties were bad , that what started zero till here
if we woulda been tilling this year with 3.5” rain , most wouldn’t have got harvested

[WiltonRanch]

It’s funny how time wipes peoples memories of dire situations and the reasons why you do things today the way you do. Gets worse with succeeding generations as they don’t know unless you tell them if they’re willing to listen. People a world away trying to tell you what has been working and improving your land is wrong is about as silly as letting the fox guard the hen house. I don’t think everyone here is critical of European high tillage methods as it must have been working for the last 1000 years give or take but it virtually f u c k e d millions of acres of prairie soils. Even my heavy ground summerfallow with tillers and even sweeps pulled a lot of topsoil into the draws.

[Guest]

So as gly is slowly but surely coming off the market, firstly in the lawn and garden sector (40 million acres in the US) Bayer has moved to protect their image elsewhere trying to keep the company afloat.
This is what's available in the local grocery store a couple aisles over from food. Suppose it's OK because the replacement product on the right is only vinegar but still called roundup. The one on the left is a mix of gly and nonanoic acid (certified organic in OZ) called Beloukha in the territory north of the US.

[blackpowder]

You were here in the 80’s when you worked for FCC, you woulda saw it too . Eighties were bad , that what started zero till here
if we woulda been tilling this year with 3.5” rain , most wouldn’t have got harvested

I worry I'm starting to sound like an old man. Telling stories few understand. Do I repeat myself because I'm lonely or because I feel no one listening? Lol.
Although it's getting harder to see, if you have a little prior knowledge, you can see what fields were like 60 years ago and how they got that way.
50 years of using a one way. No fert, all straw in the pile.
Now I see slough bottoms coming back for the second or third time in my memory..
I hope the well fed fanatics leave us able to produce and conserve sensibly.
Gly good or bad, is just the beginning.