Glyphosate market drying up

[wade]

Can't remember where or who- Was told reduced rates sped up resistance as only a partial kill and the plant "shook off' the effects and learned "how to deal with it".
Similar to getting an immunization.

[AlbertaFarmer5]

Can't remember where or who- Was told reduced rates sped up resistance as only a partial kill and the plant "shook off' the effects and learned "how to deal with it".
Similar to getting an immunization.

Both sides can make convincing arguments. But how does an annual plant pass on the resistance to the next seasons weeds that had to grow back from seeds, if it just shook it off and survived?
Edit. On further consideration, the more we learn about genetics, the more it does sound plausible that organisms can pass on acquired immunity.

[Guest]

We do the same BP
money well spent , and she mixes it up one year to the next
those kangaroo sprayers at half chem rate probably caused lots

[jamesb]

We do the same BP
money well spent , and she mixes it up one year to the next
those kangaroo sprayers at half chem rate probably caused lots

Back in the day our Ag shield sprayer worked pretty good and the idea was then to cut rates. It did work but I would agree that resistance comes easier. For me continually changing chem groups on fields works best. A diverse rotation really helps too.

[blackpowder]

Back in the day our Ag shield sprayer worked pretty good and the idea was then to cut rates. It did work but I would agree that resistance comes easier. For me continually changing chem groups on fields works best. A diverse rotation really helps too.

A actually liked the coverage an air sprayer achieved. I never reduced rates beyond 75%. I know many who did. Regardless of sprayer. I remember seeing very stunted weeds, managing to push out one or two seeds before frost. That is definitely resistance selection.

[blackpowder]

We do the same BP
money well spent , and she mixes it up one year to the next
those kangaroo sprayers at half chem rate probably caused lots

I remember balking at the cost. But I focus on the oat escapes that really slapped you later. I now try to leverage that expense to it's fullest. They can only earn their keep if you put them to work, and work with them.

[Guest]

Switching to all RR canola here.
Don't want to. Have to. Concerned about yield here firstly.
Multi chem resistant wild oats becoming serious issue.
Upside, I'll be using less active herbicide by far.

This might help you understand why you will never win against nature.
[url]https://www.odditycentral.com/news/animated-oats-the-wild-oat-seeds-that-walk-to-suitable-planting-ground.html[/url]

[Guest]

Switching to all RR canola here.
Don't want to. Have to. Concerned about yield here firstly.
Multi chem resistant wild oats becoming serious issue.
Upside, I'll be using less active herbicide by far.

That's part of the problem. Crop choice in conventional farming systems isn't about growing healthy food.
1. Canola Oil is Hydrogenated Oil


If they’re not “cold-pressed” or “extra-virgin,” the oil is considered refined. This process includes caustic refining, bleaching, and degumming – all which involve high temperatures or chemicals that are damaging to the human body. Last but not least comes the deodorization process. Because canola oil is high in omega-3 fatty acids, it becomes easily rancid and foul-smelling when subjected to oxygen and high temperatures. The standard deodorization process removes a large portion of the omega-3 fatty acids by turning them into trans-fatty acids (3 ([url]https://www.westonaprice.org/health-topics/know-your-fats/the-great-con-ola/[/url])).

If you’re consuming any vegetable oils that are oxidized from heat and light in processing, you are also exposing your body tissues to oxidized or rancid products. This contributes to degenerative diseases and chronic inflammation ([url]https://livelovefruit.com/foods-that-cause-chronic-inflammation/[/url]). 2. Genetically Modified Product


Almost all canola oil is produced from genetically modified crops. More than 90% of all canola oil is produced from genetically engineered crops ([url]https://www.huffingtonpost.com/margie-kelly/genetically-modified-food_b_2039455.html[/url]). While genetic modification was successful at lowering the erucic acid content, it also increased the amount of oleic acid.

Health concerns linked to oleic acid include:
– Retarded growth (banned in infant formulas)
– Abnormalities in blood platelets
– Damage from free radicals
– Increased risk of developing certain cancer types

Genetically engineered foods also pose some very serious health concerns like allergic reactions, immuno-suppression, toxicity, and loss of nutrition through the foods we eat (4 ([url]http://www.centerforfoodsafety.org/issues/311/ge-foods/ge-food-and-your-health[/url])). 3. Increased Risk of Developing Cancer


Canola oil is extremely unstable under heat, light and pressure, which causes oxidation and releases free radicals inside the body. When canola oil is heated (aka. when we cook with it), it produces high levels of butadiene, benzene, acrolein, formaldehyde and other nasty compounds. These chemical compounds, combined with increased free radicals create the perfect environment for cancer growth.

Researchers have found that cancer cells feed on the oleic acid in canola oil. The acid causes the cancer cells to become stronger and maintain malignancy (5 ([url]http://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0097330[/url])). Additional research has also shown that oleic acid promotes tumour progressions (6 ([url]https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1357272509003252[/url])).

With the amount of free radicals released in canola oil after cooking, it’s no wonder this oil is a trigger for cancer growth. Free radicals are highly reactive chemicals that play a major role in cancerous cell mutation (7 ([url]https://www.cancer.gov/about-cancer/causes-prevention/risk/diet/antioxidants-fact-sheet[/url])). 4. Contributes To Heart Disease


While genetic modification has lowered erucic acid levels in canola oil, it is still a major source of the acid. Erucic acid is a monounsaturated fatty acid that has been linked with heart damage, specifically Keshan disease ([url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keshan_disease[/url]) (a thickening and scarring of connective tissue within the heart). Studies have shown that in areas where people are prone to Keshan, erucic acid levels are higher, and selenium levels are lower (8 ([url]https://www.cancer.gov/about-cancer/causes-prevention/risk/diet/antioxidants-fact-sheet[/url])).

Canola oil is also capable of promoting high levels of inflammation in the body, as well as arterial calcification. Any oil that is partially hydrogenated has the capability to do so. As you might have guessed, systemic inflammation and calcification are major risk factors for coronary heart disease (9 ([url]https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19345947[/url])). 5. Interferes with Healthy Brain Function


A new study out of the Lewis Katz School of Medicine at Temple University and published in the journal Scientific Reports has linked canola oil with a decrease in memory and learning indicative of Alzheimer’s disease – the most common form of dementia (10 ([url]https://medicalxpress.com/news/2017-12-canola-oil-linked-worsened-memory.html[/url])). The study found that the brains of canola-oil treated mice had higher amounts of amyloid plaques as well as diminished contact between brain neurons.

Canola oil, being an inflammatory food, contributes to poor brain function. Chronic inflammation, as you might already know, is detrimental to the body. It attacks healthy cells, blood vessels and tissues instead of protecting them. It can shut down energy production in brain cells and slow down the firing of neurons, contributing to ADHD, anxiety, brain fog, depression, memory loss and Alzheimer’s (11 ([url]https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/the-breakthrough-depression-solution/201111/the-brain-fire-inflammation-and-depression[/url])). 6. Hypertension and Strokes


As a major contributor to inflammation in the body, canola oil takes a toll on our cardiovascular system – particularly blood pressure. Studies have found that canola oil shortens the life span of stroke-prone and hypertensive animal subjects.

One study explored the relationship between rats fed canola oil and rats fed non-canola oil diets. The catch? All rats were bred to have high blood pressure and proneness to stroke. Rats who were fed canola oil died sooner, and rats fed the non-canola oil-based diets lived longer (12 ([url]https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007%2Fs11745-000-539-5#page-1[/url])).

Another study published in Toxicology Letters looked at the effects of canola and soybean oil on blood coagulation time and erythrocytes (type of red blood cell) in stroke-prone hypertensive rats. The study found that there was a “canola oil-induced shortening of blood coagulation time and increased fragility in [red blood cell membranes],” which may trigger strokes in animal subjects who are stroke-prone (13 ([url]https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10996482[/url])). 7. Compromises Our Detox Organs


Being a genetically modified food product, canola oil takes a toll on our liver and kidneys.

A 2011 review ([url]https://link.springer.com/article/10.1186/2190-4715-23-10[/url]) of 19 different studies that involved mammals being fed genetically modified soy and corn for a period of 90 days, found that GMO foods can disrupt kidney and liver function. The review, published in Environmental Sciences Europe, stated that in the trials mentioned, kidney function was reduced by 43.5%, while liver function was reduced by 30.8%.

Vegetable oils also lack oxidative stability, so they quickly turn rancid if left untreated. Food manufacturers found their way around this problem by adding synthetic antioxidants like TBHQ, BHA and BHT. When consumed in large doses, these preservatives can cause liver tumours, as well as liver enlargement (15 ([url]https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8493816[/url]), 16 ([url]https://toxnet.nlm.nih.gov/cgi-bin/sis/search/a?dbs+hsdb:@term+@DOCNO+838[/url])).

While the preservatives in canola oil are not enough to cause adverse effects, the accumulation of such products is enough. We can easily surpass acceptable preservative limits if our diet subsists of lots of processed foots. The amounts build up over time, and as a result, our health suffers.

If you want your detox organs to work properly, avoid canola oil, processed foods with added vegetable oils, and other GM products. 8. May Hamper Normal Growth in Children


Erucic acid in canola oil was the main reason canola oil was banned from use in infant formula. The erucic acid in canola oil is harmful to infants, due to an inability to properly break it down. While the FDA previously made canola oil illegal for use in baby formula, that isn’t the case anymore. As of a few years ago, canola oil made it to the generally recognized as safe list (17 ([url]https://www.westonaprice.org/health-topics/childrens-health/the-scandal-of-infant-formula/[/url])), meaning that infant formula companies can use all the canola oil they want in their formula.
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[AlbertaFarmer5]

Congratulations, you make Chuck look like a credible scientist. And that is an incredible feat.

Edit to add, it sure would be a shame if another poster were to quote this post, so Australurking can see it...

[blackpowder]

Can't really add to your response. You said it best.

Can't remember two speared wild oats here. And all the ones i ever put in my mouth to watch unwind, never rewound. I dunno. Not sure how much wild oats in Australia.
As for the inaccurate canola editorials, I would hope scientists would be embarrassed reading them.
Time too precious.
As for lecturing me about nature...... He couldn't hold my beer.

[Guest]

Oh and thanks for reminding me BP to add you to the asylum.
Its great and better than before the upgrades. Once you figure out how to block, you cant see if the patient has posted at all. Whereas before there was a notication of a post showing the patient but no content.

[Guest]

[url]https://sustainablepulse.com/2023/12/18/wheat-intolerance-might-be-due-to-glyphosate-new-canadian-study/[/url]

[wade]

Congratulations, you make Chuck look like a credible scientist. And that is an incredible feat.

Edit to add, it sure would be a shame if another poster were to quote this post, so Australurking can see it...

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[ColevilleH2S]

This might help you understand why you will never win against nature.

Winners gonna win, losers gonna lose. We are winning because we are winners. Let's all take a second to marvel at the accomplishment of the last 40 years.

Agricultural innovation has slain famine, increased lifespan and allowed humans to pursue more fulfilling lives. Never before in human history have we been in this situation.

*Queue, We Are The Champions music

[jamesb]

Oh and thanks for reminding me BP to add you to the asylum.
Its great and better than before the upgrades. Once you figure out how to block, you cant see if the patient has posted at all. Whereas before there was a notication of a post showing the patient but no content.

Great idea Austranada. I don't think that I have ever agreed with much you have posted and find it pointless to argue with you. As a farm that now has been successfully using glyphosate for three generations, our soil is the healthiest its been in 50 years from direct seeding, crop rotation and correct use of chemicals and fertilizers. You would be sad to know that organic land in my parts is shrinking as the organic guys just cant compete with the conventional guys for land. I know a guy very committed to his organic farm at retirement time rented out to the highest bidder. It was sprayed with glyphosate for the first time ever. You need to do a better job trying to convince the organic guys to keep the faith. I was surprised it went back to conventional but at the end of the day the dollar meant more than trying to keep it organic