How do we increase returns 35%?

[silverback]

I was taught that a co-operative usually starts as a voluntary idea of like minded individuals.

Please explain how this applies to the cwb?

Please also explain why someone who produces feed barley once every couple of years would sell it through the cwb?

[parsley]

Let me get it right this time, wilagrow.

1. In April, 2001 you argue for keeping the single desk.

2. You say CWB policies don't make sense for some sectors.

3. You say producers have to demand the changes the CWB does make.

4.You did not have taxable farming income, and you didn't grow Board grains.

5. There was no money in CWB grains.

6.You are now over seventy, and with your life experiences, your hindsight, you are recommending that young farmers continue on the same marketing path you took.

7. You currently own a bin of barley which you grew sometime during the last 6 years,

8. You still support the CWB's ability to make money for you.

9. Would you agree that you are a prime example as a textbook case, and, as the poster-boy, for the Canadian Wheat Board?

Parsley

[wilagro]

parsley: I don't agree with much that you say.

Let's just leave it at that.

You make too many conclusions with too little evidence.

For your information, I love the farming life. I earned my money OFF THE FARM...How else could I have paid CASH for my farm and the equioment to farm it with? I retired at the age of 52 in order to farm. I still have money that I earned. Life is great.

[parsley]

Move over, ex-poster boy Flaman, I rest my case.
Parsley

[parsley]

Wilagro, I'm actually glad I did find out your age. I can totally understand why you are opposed to a Dual Market System. You are 70, and possibly only want to farm 5-10 years, and don't want to learn all this new rat race on marketing. I totally understand, you and my Father are not much different. But Wilagro I am 28 and want to market my own grain, because I have the know how.

Don't forget in a Dual Market System you can still use the CWB, and I can go my way. But in all seriousness I really do understand why you are against it.

[FarmRanger]

So, someone explain to me why the wilagros can't pool with the CWB and the snappys can't sell to whoever they please? Make all the wilagros sign a long term contract, and force all the snappys to stay out for a few years.

If the CWB is doing a good job then all the snappys will be clamoring to get in. If not, then the wilagros won't be renewing their contracts.

The problem right now is that we have to rely on information that is biased one way or the other? Surely there are enough farmers who would sign long term pooling contracts with the CWB to keep them in business long enough to find out the truth, one way or the other?
Sort of like a no BS performance evaluation?

[cottonpicken]

Snappy if you dont know the direction of the oil market you really should let someone else sell your grain for you.

[FarmRanger]

Cotten, the CWB either doesn’t know the value of barley, or, they overcontracted when the price was low. So using the logic you dispensed to snappy, the CWB shouldn’t be marketing barley?
Just asking.

[FarmRanger]

Cp, you are a unrealistic trader. I do know the way of oil. But I also look at scenarios that can possibly alter my plan. And in the oil market there are alot of variables.

As I'm am very optimistic on all the grain markets, you are a man who likes to boast about himself way to much. In a recent thread you talked about Canola by Summer hitting $15.00/bus. You my friend are out to lunch.

[FarmRanger]

Farmranger, I agree 100% with your proposal. CWB supporters sign contracts with the Board, and I will gladly stay away.

Another note to all Single Desk supporters. I wonder at all of you, how many of you sell your feed barley to the CWB, or how many pursue the open market?? I know the answer, the CWB rarley offers a premium to the opemn market.

FarmRanger, I think that is one of the best ideas I've heard yet. No in between. You want the CWB stay with them, feed barley and all. And I'll stay out no returns for either.

Well Done!

[FarmRanger]

Thanks snappy. The trouble with “feed barley and all” is that its likely that no-one would contract with the CWB within 200 miles of feedlot alley. It wouldn’t be worth the risk of getting the lower board feed price as I don’t always get malt quality barley. The price differential is too large between board feed barley and feedlot alley prices when we fail to achieve the “malt premium quality”.

I would prefer that a dual market had a CWB malt barley contract separate from feed barley. If the CWB can’t even get a malt premium to feed, then a farmer shouldn’t be forced to sell to them, period. A lower malt to feed price should be a definite failing grade on the ol’ performance evaluation?

[cottonpicken]

Snap,
So yesterday when you said "i new about the bull a year ago but didnt post"-does that make you a coward or a liar.

Then in all your wisdom you post"if oil keeps dropping like it is"-which is a very ignorant statement because oil has been FLYING upward the past 10 trading days touching 60 dollars a barrel.But you must have made a typo because you"follow these things".

Take your nose out of that dead horses ass you call the cwb and pay more attention to global issues.Then maybe we can have a two way debate on more relevant topics that effect the price of barley.(i hope your paying attention farmranger)