This is something every single farmer in Canada and the World should watch!

[chuckChuck]

Saskatchewan has been building more energy efficient schools under the Leeds program certification. Leeds - Leadership in Energy and Environmental Design.

These buildings are healthier with better ventilation systems and have a much lower cost of operation because they use less electricity and energy for heating over their life time.

A5 it sounds like you are opposed to more insulation and energy efficient equipment and design?

When you build your next house are you going to use 2 by 4 walls and single pane windows too?

[AlbertaFarmer5]

Saskatchewan has been building more energy efficient schools under the Leeds program certification. Leeds - Leadership in Energy and Environmental Design.

These buildings are healthier with better ventilation systems and have a much lower cost of operation because they use less electricity and energy for heating over their life time.

A5 it sounds like you are opposed to more insulation and energy efficient equipment and design?

When you build your next house are you going to use 2 by 4 walls and single pane windows too?

Actually, we used ICF top to bottom, triple pane windows, high efficiency boiler for heat, heat recovery ventilation system, box shape to minimize surface area and roof area.
By my math, without a large CO2 tax increase to make energy artificially more expensive, we will never live long enough for these energy efficiency measures to pay for themselves.

[SASKFARMER]

In chucks Mind Spending $25000 to heat your home with a heat pump that would take 12 years or more to pay plus if its like mine in USA when i turn on the heat side my power bill doubles. Math is tough for Liberals just ask Justin! Offering subsidies to get people to switch to something that doesn't work isn't a great plan. Its a Disaster.

[AlbertaFarmer5]

In chucks Mind Spending $25000 to heat your home with a heat pump that would take 12 years or more to pay plus if its like mine in USA when i turn on the heat side my power bill doubles. Math is tough for Liberals just ask Justin! Offering subsidies to get people to switch to something that doesn't work isn't a great plan. Its a Disaster.

Remember almost 20 years ago when natural gas prices were high, and ground source heat pumps were marketed as the solution. They may have had an economic case at that time when electricity was still cheap. But in the interim, thanks to the private sector creating the shale gas boom resulting in cheap gas, and the governments destroying the affordability of electricity, the ground source heat pumps have all been abandoned since they electrical bill was far far higher than heating with gas.
Now we are supposed to believe that a heat pump using expensive rationed renewable electricity to transfer heat from -47C ambient air is going to be cost effective when ground source wasn't?

[SASKFARMER]

It's not going to work at those temps

[TASFarms]

I was looking into geothermal. Couldn’t find a single person that had one to say it was worth while. I did find more than a few people that took them out and went to propane. If power was free maybe a heat pump might work. But it’s not

[LEP]

I was looking into geothermal. Couldn’t find a single person that had one to say it was worth while. I did find more than a few people that took them out and went to propane. If power was free maybe a heat pump might work. But it’s not

I agree. I know two that have geothermal systems and wish they didn't. Like you say they both went to propane.

Kind of like the real world experience of EVs. Hertz rental has had a pretty large sample size and said a hard NO.

Most of Chucks' cut and pastes profess in the future this or that technology will take hold only to get proven to be fantasies in the real world.

[shtferbrains]

I planned on renting an EV next time we holiday in California to get like a 2 week test drive.
I can see some appeal to them in the right situation and California is the place.
We rent from Costco travel where it appears a low end EV will cost 50% more than a mid size SUV.
Not sure I am that interested but will see when the time comes.
Sometimes they have them on a managers special because most find them inconvenient and they have a lot sitting around.
The Toyota Prius was also premium priced. Have never rented compact cars.

[chuckChuck]

I know 2 farms that have ground source heat pumps and they heat and cool fine and have stuck with them.

Do you think the technology and experience with heat pumps from 20 years ago is relevant to 2024?

Are you still using dial up internet and a party line?

[SASKFARMER]

I have a 2024 heat pump in Florida, we will see the last one lasted 5 years and 3 days. In Saskatchewan a real heat pump wont work for most of the winter. Ground source is a polite way of saying I will buy more blankets. and try to survive.