Ontario Wheat Marketing Board

[chaffmeister]

just-wondering:
why stop at merging with Ontario and Quebec marketing boards. I'd be willing to bet that there's some farmers in North Dakota that would join a voluntary wheat board - call it the North American Wheat Board (NAWB).

[kamichel]

North Dakota , interesting. I wonder if the CWB directors thought of that?

[mustardman]

Winwin
you were more credible when you were just Tom4CWB telling commie jokes.

[mustardman]

Parsley and Tom
I think Bennyhin was asking about volume in terms of tonnes.
How much wheat is produced in Ontario?

Very small amount is exported I believe, most going to mills situated close by.

[parsley]

winwin's replies say almost the same thing as the new CWB Director Kornychuck used to write in all the farm papers. The similarity in the message makes you wonder!

mustardman, the number of bushels is irrelevant. What matters first of all is whether or not the famer can sell his own grain, and secondly, how much money the farmer puts into his pocket!

In his pocket

In his pocket


You are thinking CWB hands in my pocket.

Parsley

[BennyHin]

Seems Parsley can find all kind of obscure data on the internet (although I havent seen a Maurice Strong posting for a while), but can find this simple stat:


[URL="http://www.omafra.gov.on.ca/english/stats/crops/estimate_imperial.htm"]Click here[/URL]

or cut and paste:
http://www.omafra.gov.on.ca/english/stats/crops/estimate_imperial.htm

Cant be too difficult marketing 245,000 of production into a population centre of southern ontario.

This production can be grown by 15 very large W. Canadian farmers alone.

Now, let me see, Western Canada grows how much.. mmmh, and the population base is how much..... mmmh.

TOM4CWB: You still havent answered. Do you also need help with your homework?

[mustardman]

Bennyhin
I think Parsley is long gone ,he likes to stir the pot with misinformation and them head off to start a new thread with misinformation.
I wonder if he's on Alberta Agriculture's payroll ?

[chaffmeister]

BennyHin:
Why the interest in relative size between OWPMB and CWB?

Don't know where you get 245,000 - I get 2.6 million tonnes (including winter wheat). And according to Parsley's numbers (33%) that means the OWB "marketed" about 900,000 tonnes in 2005.

Why does this matter?

Since you said "Cant be too difficult marketing 245,000 of production into a population centre of southern ontario", I'm guessing you'd support an open market for ALL domestic wheat. After all, the CWB is a price taker in the domestic market - just ask Jim Thompson (of the CWB).

[Vader]

[charliep]

Ontario total wheat production last year in 2006 was 2.64 MMT of which spring wheat was 247,000 tonnes. Winter wheats are also used in milling/flour.

In 2005, it was 1.76 MMT of which spring wheat was 182,000 tonnes.

You ask good questions raise some interesting topics for research. I note total milling wheat for human consumption is about 2.7 MMT with an additional 250,000 tonnes of exported flour (wheat equivalent). The CWB share of the domestic milling market is about 2.1 MMT in 2005/05 (page 42 of the annual report). In 2005/06, that would leave about 800,000 of eastern Canadian milling wheat used domestically. Numbers here don't make sense but would have to check out the feed use/export side of the Ontario ledger. Also does not consider other eastern provinces.

A real interesting/curious is the 2004/05 year where the CWB says they sold 2.7 MMT domestically (annual report) out of total domestic human consumption wheat volume of 2.711 (Statistics Canada number).

Just curious Vader. I have never talked to an Ontario farmer who wants to go back to the old style OWPMB where pooling is the only option. The transition was also very much staged from cash contracting with the OWPMB and finally an open market with a OWPMB.

I am looking forward to announcements this spring increasing the size of the daily pricing sign up limits. This has been the easiest system in the world to advise on - licence to put an extra 25 cent to a buck a bushel in a farmers pocket. Perhaps the best advertising for why a open market will be more dollars in a farmers pocket.

[charliep]

The above doesn't include durum by the way. Ontario doesn' produce durum anyway.

[BennyHin]

chaffmeister: Since you work in the industry, why dont you call Jim Thompson, I dont know him, obviously you do.

Ontario has exported 900 KT of wheat this year. Wanna guess who is buying it?

Egypt, India, and the lost cost, little value markets. This is excess poduction that not even the highly populated S-SW ONT and mid-West USA region can consume (at decent levels). This leads into my previous question for Tom4CWB; Why hasnt the OWB issued interm payments on the 06-07 pools?

Vader answered the rest of your questions, but like Parsely, you wont read it.

[wedino]

Hey Vader, Did the cwb issue an export license for the "less than 1 million tonnes exported" from On? How much wheat was exported from other non DA provinces & were export licenses issued by the cwb? How much revenue did these licenses generate for the cwb?

[parsley]

BennyHinn,

I don't care how many bushels Ontario grows. They could have a bumper crop OR an entire crop failure this year. But, that is not the point.

The point is that they have marketing choice. They can sell to the Ontario Board or they can bypass the Ontario Board.

In the Designated Area, the feed mills bypass the Board pooling and marketing.
They are out of the monopoly, and that is the point. There are lots of others in the DA who bypss the monopoly and it has not destroyed the Board.

Giving choice will save the Board, BennyHinn,read that again, and if you do not take that advice seriously, you won't have a Wheat Board at all.

Parsley

[chaffmeister]

BennyHin:
You don't need to know Jim Thompson to call him. He works for you.

(The answer will still be the same - the CWB is a price taker in Canadian market.)

You say "Vader answered the rest of your questions", but the only question I asked was of you - why does this matter?