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    Consrvatives pre-occupied with Quebec over W. CAN

    Same old story, doesn't matter who you send to Ottawa:


    Railway issues again off track
    Source: Murray Mandryk, The Leader-Post
    Published: February 6th 2007


    For all the fuss and bother over the future of the Canadian Wheat Board,
    there has been another simmering grain issue equally critical to western
    farmers.

    It's a familiar story about grain transportation and Western Canada's
    seemingly never-ending battle with the railways.

    And what it again demonstrates is that despite all the sway western MPs supposedly have in Prime Minister Stephen Harper's Conservative government
    eastern- based institutions and political interests continue to have even
    more influence.

    For a while last spring, it actually looked as if Harper's new
    Conservative MPs in the West (David Anderson, Cypress Hills) were making
    headway in the long-standing issue of regulatory transportation reform in the grain-handling industry.

    "We felt we were making very good progress," said Wade Sobkowich,
    executive director of the Winnipeg-based Western Grain Elevator
    Association, in a recent interview.

    The association representing all the western grainhandlers, including
    Agricore United, Cargill Ltd., James Richardson International Ltd., Louis
    Dreyfus Canada Ltd., Parrish & Heimbecker Ltd., Paterson Global Foods
    Inc., the Saskatchewan Wheat Pool and the Weyburn Inland Terminal Ltd.,
    had even successfully solicited support from the mining, forestry and
    petroleum industries on a package of regulatory and legislative reforms,
    Sobkowich said.

    Also onside were western Conservative MPs, including the dozen from
    Saskatchewan, who -- according to Sobkowich -- vowed they were equally
    determined to address the "shortfalls, inefficiencies and failures" of the
    railway system affecting grainhandlers. Those problems are too numerous to
    list, Sobkowich said, but one big regulatory issue has been ensuring that
    rail companies face the same penalties as grainhandlers.

    For example, grainhandlers have a mere 24-hour period to load 100-car unit
    trains, he explained. (You may recall that one of the railways' arguments
    for the demise of the country elevator system was the better servicing of
    the more efficient unit trains). Failure to meet these obligations results
    in penalties or loss of incentives, which means inland terminals can't
    take deliveries during that period.

    However, if the rail companies don't supply the unit trains on the day
    they are required, grain companies wind up losing deliveries for a day or
    three. Yet the railways don't face reciprocal penalties.

    Sobkowich argued that rail "cycle times" (the period between a grain car
    leaving an inland terminal and returning to another) have become less
    reliable, despite improved efficiency of the grain companies. The
    regulatory changes agreed to last spring included a "Commercial Dispute
    Resolution" process with an effective legislative backstop that would have
    forced the railways to address these inefficiencies.

    Proposals were made to Transport Canada and an agreement was reached on
    May 5, 2006 on changes to the Canada Transportation Act. The agreement
    also included a commitment that the minister of Transport would undertake
    a more detailed review of service and railway accountability concerns
    within 30 days of the passage of the bill -- a major step that Sobkowich
    says would have reversed the trend of declining railway service.

    But while the federal government seemed initially eager to implement the
    changes, that quickly changed early last summer and the changes have not
    been adopted, Sobkowich said.

    Now, the Conservative government and Transport Canada are suggesting that
    the grainhandling companies should reach a consensus before any such
    changes regulatory changes are implemented.

    So what happened? Sobkowich won't speculate. But it's worth noting that CN
    Rail made it known early last summer that it opposed these changes. It's
    also worth noting that CN is headquartered in Quebec, where Transport
    Canada Minister Lawrence Cannon resides. It's also worth noting that
    Quebec is where Harper's Conservatives want to win more seats.

    For Saskatchewan people, this may be the latest in a disturbing trend.

    The Conservatives campaign on a major issue to western stakeholders and
    commit to making needed change.

    Then they claim they can't make the changes because all the parties
    affected can't agree.

    Sound familiar? It should. This is the exact tactic the federal government
    is using over its promise to Saskatchewan to remove non-renewable
    resources from the equalization formula. Make a promise to West and when
    it displeases eastern interests, claim it can't be kept because there's no
    consensus.

    Sadly, it's the same old story.

    - Mandryk is the political columnist for the Leader-Post.

    #2
    The more things change the more they stay the same. Gee, but they can move really quick on the CWB because no one in Quebec cares. Let's see Parsley when you succeed in taking out the CWB there will be one less control on the Railways. The Grain companies seem powerless to do anything now , what will change? Oh that's right you'll have the priviledge of paying more to ship grain or will you just truck it across the border?

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      #3
      Ever heard of FOB farm, agstar77?














      I thought not.

      Parsley

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        #4
        FOB farm will also become less lucrative as it is arbitraged to an uncompetitive rail freight rate.

        Come on Parsley, this is logistics 101? By the way is it correct to use the term FOB farm? Isnt this term associated with maritime freight?

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          #5
          Maybe in your world, the CWB keeps it secret from you, (ask your accredited agent, what's his name?.....)or maybe the CWB thinks you are too dumb to write-out or revise a contract.

          In my world, every buyer we make a custom-contract with speaks the same lingo. And somehow it works. A farmer!

          Anyhow, you keep doing what you're doing, BennyHinn, the CWB has told you attaboy, and you're happy.

          Carry on.

          Parsley

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            #6
            what dream world do you live in Parsley - you say FOB farm as if freight doesn't exist.



            Puuuhleeeeeeeeeeeeease!!!!

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              #7
              Vader,

              I know that you are incapable of answering a question, but his question to me was:

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              By the way is it correct to use the term FOB farm? Isnt this term associated with maritime freight? Unquote

              We use the term FOB. it works.
              I answered what the man asked.

              I'd ask you to answer the Machej question again, but you'll just crawl back under your bloody bed, Vader.

              Parsley

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                #8
                agstar77:
                Seems like the CWB is powerless as well. What was that we've been hearing that the CWB has countervailing power over the railroads?

                BennyHin:
                Logistics 101, lesson 1:
                FOB = Free on board
                It means the cost to load onto a conveyance is included in the price but not the actual cost of freight/hauling. Applies to any form of conveyance or transportation (not just marine).

                Evader:
                FOB is a freight term - you can't talk about FOB as if freight doesn't exist. I'm surprised you didn't see that parsley was just indicating that there are other ways to move product. It's called innovation and entrepreneurship. Look into it.

                Where I used to work as a grain trader, I asked a mentor of mine what makes a good trader. His answer was the ability to pull the trigger (make a decision and act on it) and the ability to work around or through any obstacle or "brick wall" getting in the way of making something work.


                Where I used to work, very few cats were left unskinned.

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                  #9
                  Vader,

                  The majority of our 2007 canola contracts are FOB Pricing.

                  The CWB is doing everything within it's power to kill the Conservatives... which makes transport reform even more difficult.

                  Name me one Conservative MP in MB, SK, AB, or BC that wouldn't push for the transportation reforms that we tried to get this spring.

                  We are shooting ourselves in the foot. And the CWB is making it harder each day to resolve this issue. Shoot at the CWB Minister Vader, Agstar... use up our goodwill. SMART move.

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                    #10
                    What is missing from this thread is the discussion around improvements suggested by the Coalition of Rail Shippers to deal with some of the issues in terms of rail made to the minister (Cannon).

                    The issues included repeal of the substantial commercial harm before rate relief. Removal of the CCR and retaining of the CLR. The levels of service and how it related to Multi Party filings. Longer notification, 10 days more, for ancillaries. The final offer arbitration enabling group applications and to enable persons as well as shippers to request FOA of ancillary rules and charges.

                    Would have gone a long way to make positive changes, but in the end while the minister recognized them as benefits, they were not included in the submission by Transport Canada. They died and little progress was made.

                    F.O.B. indicates which services come with a price. Describes a price which includes goods plus the services of loading those goods onto some vehicle or vessel at a named location.

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                      #11
                      Oh, and the CWB was on the CRS too. (A good thing)

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                        #12
                        I do not think it was a coincidence that shortly after the CRS came out with its recomendations - that the CWB was "targeted"

                        This ensured the heat would be taken off the railroads to improve
                        and since alot of pressure comes from CWB on the rail companies , it might also rid them of their arch nemesis.

                        Campaign contributions and big time lobbysists are the rail companies ace in the hole.

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                          #13
                          Add one more spook and you have a Tom Clancey novel. Anyone have polonium 210 in the meeting?

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                            #14
                            Incognito , the railroads since confederation have had huge political clout.
                            If you don"t think there was pressure applied this time as like other times you are sadly mistaken

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                              #15
                              F.O.B. Doesn't meann freight is not calculated into the price you receive . Anyone with a working brain knows that, or are the anti CWB folks on a lunch break? Why don't you support your Con/reform buddies and agree, they need votes in Quebec.

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